Evolution/ Darwinism

[syed]

because an atheist or an idol worshiper will have a different basis then quraan, so i will have to reply accordingly.

Syed why go that far even MUSLIM UMMAH has done the same injustice to teaching of Quran. Every Muallah or self created experts on Islam like you have different basic understanding of Quraan than a true learned scholar of Islam

Aww poor you.. you came down to throwing mud now...
you are excused.. i cant stoop to your level.. since you will beat me with your experience..

i am neither a mullah not a self created expert... since i am not from the gang of rejectors...

Mister Oma Bharti or Ms. Oma Bharti ??
call you sister or brother ??

WBR
Syed

[syed]

it didnt evolved into a fire throwing dragon to protect itself

I'll leave the fire throwing dragons to creationism. By ignoring and dismissing every scientific breakthrough in support of evolution your are merely presenting a mythology, not science.

Brother confused, may I suggest you read up on the evidence in support of evolution by scientists before making a decision.

i explained to you that the example you gave is of ADAPTATION not EVOLUTION.. bring forth a better example

you talk of scientific breakthrough then provide me those.. don't tell me to go and read up non existent evidence... bring forth the evidence !!!

and if you dont have any evidence and dont have a clue of those unknown scientific breakthrough then dont support anything just because you have beliefs and dont have any reason to do so... hindus in india also believe their hand made pictures and stones are god.. it wont change anything.. stone will still be stone.. your blind beliefs wont change anything.

please next time post proper methods of evolution which can be observed or have been scientifically observed... don't post birds getting white and black with soot stories..


WBR
Syed

[Humsafar]

stone will still be stone..

Right! Wonder why Muslims kiss hajar al aswad.

..your blind beliefs wont change anything.

Of course. Now why don't you take your own advice?

Anajmi, our brother is getting very excited here - seems to have read too much of Harun Yahya. Please advice him to calm down, and tell him to stick to the source. Perhaps Yusuf Ali could be a good distraction.

[jawanmardan]

stone will still be stone..

Right! Wonder why Muslims kiss hajar al aswad.

..your blind beliefs wont change anything.

Of course. Now why don't you take your own advice?

Anajmi, our brother is getting very excited here - seems to have read too much of Harun Yahya. Please advice him to calm down, and tell him to stick to the source. Perhaps Yusuf Ali could be a good distraction.

Syed's post is either a master stroke of satire, or the irony is shockingly painful.

[anajmi]

Perhaps Yusuf Ali could be a good distraction.

If one is looking for a distraction, then look no further than Humsafar's furan right here on this board. Kissing hajar al aswad is the same as kissing your child or your parents or how bohras kiss the corner of the "masallo" after namaz or how one kisses the quran. You might want to equate it to idol worship but it is a sign of desperation. Not a single muslim outside of mecca or Hajj refers to Hajar Al Aswad in any of their daily prayers to Allah and it isn't a part of worship in Islam. It is simply a stone with history and the prophet's tradition behind it. But one needs to start reading a little bit more than the furan to figure out the difference between idol worship and acts of respect for the prophet and what he considered important.

[syed]

@humsafar
@jawanmardan

come on guys.. find more stories like the moss turn black and white to support evolution... dont change the topic...

you can start another thread where i will try to tell u where exactly hajar al aswad stands and why it is kissed...

but anajmi summed it up more or less for you guys... its just a symbol of affection an respect.. it is not a god, and no Muslim bow head in front of it...
i bet if it were a part of the hindu religion it would have certainly became god.. and some priests would have also found that it is now hungry and want to drink milk... right ?

about getting exited... its rare to see such masters of buffoonery like you are.. so i am enjoying..

also you just present a perfect example of how u pick a few words and the use them out of context just like you quoted mine ..


WBR
Syed

[Biradar]

I believe, on simple observation of the world around me, that Darwin was certainly wrong. Obviously all scriptures tell us that God made us in His image or that we are Allah's greatest creation. Now, how can one compare such beautiful, amazing and scientifically accurate ancient scriptures with the stupidity that passes as modern science? Has not the former been propagated by the sword and blood of countless martyrs?

One must doubt the intelligence of the creator though. Judging by the stupidity of his "greatest" creation, his creative powers do not seem that great. After all, animals don't blow each other up or divide them selves into 72 sects based on minutiae of the said scriptures. Or argue endlessly about silly things which they know nothing about on message boards.

In the Ikhwan al-safa during the case of the animals against humans, the king of Jinns judges in favour of the humans simply because Allah has sent them prophets. Now, I must doubt the intellegence of this king of Jinns too. These so-called prophets are the cause of the greatest havocs on the planet. Crusades, jihads and what not.

I sometimes think that it would be better if Darwin was right and our species was not such an insult to the Almighty. Would be better to blame our stupidity to our decent from common ancestors rather than on the fuzzy-headed creative abilities of a creator.

[syed]

One must doubt the intelligence of the creator though. Judging by the stupidity of his "greatest" creation, his creative powers do not seem that great. After all, animals don't blow each other up or divide them selves into 72 sects based on minutiae of the said scriptures. Or argue endlessly about silly things which they know nothing about on message boards.

I sometimes think that it would be better if Darwin was right and our species was not such an insult to the Almighty. Would be better to blame our stupidity to our decent from common ancestors rather than on the fuzzy-headed creative abilities of a creator.

Dear Biradar, i can understand your anguish and frustration when you see people divided and killing each other, thats indeed a sign of a good heart however your anger is misguided

in a small example, if you got a car which is made as the best car ever built, whose performance and features are far far beyond what has been made till now, and then it is given to a person, who took it on a ride and then could not drive it well and had accident and broke it up in 72 Pcs.. now will you blame the person who was driving it or to the manufacturer who made it ??

Indeed man is a greatest of all, dont you see people who are incomparable in their qualities? did you see anyone aroudn you who you want to look up to ? we muslims look up to Muhammad SAW, however you need to read and understand his life on your own and not on what you see or hear around.

WBR
Syed