Uproar due to India TV news

[S. Insaf]

This morning India TV channel gave the news of Sayedna Saheb's connects with the terrorists. There is a news that Bohras in large numbers have gathered in India TV office and protesting.

[Hussain_KSA]

Insaf Bhai,

India TV has already apologiesed for the mistake :

http://www.indiatvnews.com/Common.aspx?path=29/285

Regards

[East Africawalla]

What a cock up, we should sue them for every penny

[voice]

Its a wrong example of journalism and must be condemn even if you have disagreement with the system. Protest should be within limits of teachings of Islam and example of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) should be followed.

Voice

[accountability]

it is by all means codemnable. Eastafrica wala is right, they should be sued and a formal letter of apology should be published. In India it has become a favorite trend to malign each and every muslim and their leader for the sake of story. I have sent a letter of protest through indian consulate to the paper. Syedna saheb and our community is the most peaceful of all the muslim sects.

[profrog]

What is more important is that the identity of the shaitan who gave the doctored picture to india tv, this is not work of hindus of india tv ,this shaitan belongs to the group which includes shimr and yazid and will get his just dues very soon while alive and forever when dead,the dawoodi bohras have demanded his identity from india tv and the iblis will be known soon,khuda ni laanat on him ......., the plan to discredit syedna tus while he is sick can only be hatched by people who are ******* do not know their parents and it backfired on this *******

[profrog]

Lets us see who defends this shaitan

[ozmujaheed]

By threatening and calling Shaitan the people with an alternative view to yours will not scare or wipe out the mess you have landed yourselves into….I do not condone or support the specific media twist and sensationalism but am trying to inform you learn to live “smart” in this slum that you have created…

If you were of highest and purest integrity such stains would be ignored and credible personalities from broader spectrum would have automatically come to your aid…do not get me wrong do protest the false claims as you have your freedom of speech too but do it in a civilised manner….calling people shaitan will backfire

Try to earn your sympathy and support, rather then demanding it ! How strange that this peaceful community was too silent when Rasullullahs SAW was mocked by Salman and cartoonists, and went as far as twisting the silence to over publicise the peacefulness and isolate us from the Muslim Ummah when seeking favours from non-Muslims…I

Your uproar is amazing….are these the times when your oppressive boomerang has turned back on you…has Karma materialised…are these the signs of Kothar empire crumbling … Welcome and taste the side which for years that suffered under your propaganda. I hope Kotharis learn from this event that when you live in glass houses there are so many stones you can throw.

The Orthodox and Kothari Bohras who for a long time courted media have suddenly fallen foul of the very media they fed and rejoiced when publicity was good and useful to fool Bohras and skim them.

Media is a strange beast when it likes something, it can raise you to your highest allusive cloud...but the day it turns on you it will drop you from the same height and destroy your credibility…

How unprepared and off guard Kotharis are taken when events turned around Orthodox fanatics biggest mistake which is not a surprise to me, as their intelligence and cocoon lifestyle through sabaqs never taught them that, it may be ok within confines of a Jamaat Khana, for mullahs and sheikhs to shout people down but in the real world there are etiquettes of protests and debates.

Ortho’s seem not read or follow politicians who will never do what they just did, ie leave strange commentary on the media sites as a sign or anger and protest. How naïve to take on the journalists and media in an abusive and threatening manner, when one reads the commentary left by the hundreds…journalists have their code of conduct that they sub-consciously will unite and hurt you where it hurts most when they see a mate being set on by a group.

By the way all tese debates is creating data on the internet too ..If one does Google on “Mehsud and Sayedna” one will get many hits as the news is spreading and the information text searchable including his hunting trips.

[Anwar]

profrog, calm down, no need for all these lanats and haterate it wont lead you anywhere. It seems you have already come to a conclussion whos behind this. You are very angry, and rightly so, but remember angry people cannot think.

[like_minded]

The telecast on 6.4.09 was lies, and on 7.4.09 .. bigger lies!

[East Africawalla]

The response should be in a sanitised and responsible way , its no use getting to rhetorics, its a cock up and should be viewed as such and appropriate actions should be taken, 1st step the TV have appologised, 2nd step how did this mistake happen and why did they have Syedna's photograph and than ensure such mistakes do not happen, its better our community stays out of limelight otherwise could have negative repercussions.

[Anwar]

I agree with you EAwalla, on pt 1,2,3 but definately not on last point, "its better our community stays out of limelight otherwise could have negative repercussions."
If our comminity was fair, helpfull, outward looking, progressive,transparent,then they should not have any problem with a little exposure.
We definately vill have negative repercuption as things are in the community for the last 40 or så years. Can anyone please tell me if there is anything positive or something to be proud of that our community has achicved? Other than new and innovative ways of robbing and milking the gulible bohris??

[WiseBohra]

india Tv News has made blunder, regarding M.B. thing is not going right for Sultan M.B. Power is slipping away old age,illness Vulture are waiting !

anyway india Tv News has apologise,but that is not enough India Tv News should make Doumentry about Sultan M.B and Kothar that how Sultan and his family is living life of extreme richness. and Amils and Kothar Atrocities if Bohra object ,Bohras will be excommunicated,you are not allowed to talk to your parents or other Bohras. Your family suffer not
allowed burial of loved ones,wedding will be stopped.

M.B and his goons will intimidate you you will be harrased or beaten up. One thing i agree with E.A. that India TV News should cough out hefty compensation which should be given not to Kothar but N.O.G agency so all the monies goes to needy Bohras if they want to pay medical fees.or College fees or their other daily needs.

Finally there should be farman from M.B and Kothar that for 40 days Bohras to come outside India TV News office, and do pur Josh Matam to teach India News that in Future do not Cock up news without research,and to saw the world that, we know how to do Pur JOSH MATAAM.

[SBM]

Is it possible that this story and one in Mumbaimirror might have been planted by some one from the KOTHAR, as there is an internal struggle going on to grab the power. Syedna being in coma and never had any power but a puppet by internal forces, some SHEZADA is trying to discredit him. Remember the story of Br. Shakir of ZAHIR-BAATIN that he was beaten up even though he is from Syedna's family

[East Africawalla]

Oma, you watch too many Bollywood movies, your mind is getting currupted

[hypocritebohra]

Here is the link to India TV apology. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHMeV05QZlw

[Maqbool]

The work done by India TV is henious and must be condem in the strogest words.
The apology is eye wash and must be sued in the court of law.

The India TV is a black mailer and in the past in one fabricated sting operation they have been punished by court and have to close down their broadcasting for fifteen days.

This time in the name of apology, in fact they have increased their TRP since all the tabutdat na program were cancelled and bohras asked to see the apology. On the other side kothar has given their script for apology and got free advertisement.

The photographs of one surti nikah taken from the malumat.com is changed by India TV to suit to their story.This is not a technical mistake, and a 100% delberate attempt to projec sayedna as terrorist. The channal must be taken to the court and should be asked for heavy compensation and closer of broadcasting.
(I have photographs by cortesy of Malumat.com mailing list but do not know how to post here)
The profrog has an ill brain which is filled with enmity and nothing else. This is because of Kothar and its agencies which have a roll since his childhood. The Baitulla Masood like people is the product of this type of brain.

[East Africawalla]

I agree with Maqbool, this guys are playing games with people sntiments, We should take a serious case against them, its not only against Bohras but all muslims

[like_minded]

I agree with Maqbool, this guys are playing games with people sntiments, We should take a serious case against them, its not only against Bohras but all muslims

EA

How come you are not aware of the fact that Kothar is playing games with people's sentiments since decades?? When something like this happens, you guys switch on your focuses, and what follows is a massive backlash! Why not the same energy to fight against atrocities and exploitation by Kothar against its own followers?

What we saw on 6.4.09 where syedna was linked with this dreaded terrorist is no doubt lies, whats bigger lies is the tailor made script which the channel relayed on 7.4.09...

Syedna surely has no links with Taliban, But what would you call a man who terrorizes and exploits his own followers? and that too in the name of religion? Who sells God to the highest bidder?? A God pedaling faith jockey?

[JC]

OK Kotharis would have no connection with these terrorists because no doubt the end result of loot and power is same, the means are different - so there could not be any connection.

But you gullibel bohras - you see all sort of conspiracies and shaytans when some one steps on your tail ... and u all get angry and go wild

There is always a possibility is could be due to some infight among Kotharis - may be result of some Shahzada sending suttle signal to some other Shazada that he is also a party to be treated ........ every thing is fair in love and war and this chair of 53 Dai is LOVE of all Shahzadas and for this they could go to WAR........ may be, who knows may be

OR

this is yet another plan of Kothar to unite all the bohras and further cement the faith - who knows what do they want to guage with this ..... are bohras ready for a 'fight' or may be a 'war' ........... how far they can go for Maula .......

All this hip and drama and matam and darees and all stuff is intended towards one aim - Appearance of Imam - it seems that they will 'bring' some Imam and then there will be 4 or 5 Dais dividing the world ........

[like_minded]

But you gullibel bohras - you see all sort of conspiracies and shaytans when some one steps on your tail ... and u all get angry and go wild

How true! When there is praise, all are happy ... when there is criticism .. there is backlash... (aa to munafeqeen nu kaam chhe) much like puppets, you press a button and he goes up.. you press another and he is down!

A healthy community is the one which is open to criticism, and learn something out of it. Not ours surely where criticism is dealt with severely. This proves that the foundation itself is faulty... how can you you have a high-rise on it?

[ghulam muhammed]

India TV's news item needs to be condemned in the strongest possible way but on the flip side as some members on this forum anticipate, cant this whole drama be a ploy to gain more sympathy for Burhanudin saab and in that exercise give kothar a chance to exploit the abdes more and more ? Well nothing is impossible for the power hungry and money minded kothar.

[SAJJAD]

Sayedna and his entourage are the biggest crooks on the planet. Their numerous atrocities and terrorization of the bohri community for decades should be plastered all over the media and to Human Rights Commission so society can get a sense of how kothar uses religion to support a lavish lifestyle that is 100% funded by the gullible community.

Sayedna is in no way an "Ambassador of peace, a Portrayal and Messiah of Love". (These are just additional "fake" titles that must have purchased with an exchange of bribery or by an ass licking practices to corrupt politicians). As a matter of fact, Sayedna & Company are far from the noble and elevated titles. Did the fanatics not forget, Sayedna pressures one to break family ties with non-brainwashed bohris, imposes persecution, ex-communication, discrimination with other Muslims, and showers lanats on those who choose not to become enslaved by Sayedna and his goons. To give Sayedna a title any other than "hypocritical" would be foolish and absued!

[Al Zulfiqar]

bhai sajjad,

i fully agree with you. as the hidden imam of this zaman in purdah, i have decided not to give permission to this dai to declare nas on anyone so far. in fact i have declared nas-bandi on this entire bunch of crooked human beings who are not fit to belong to any religion.

[East Africawalla]

Interesting Zulfikar , finally you have a blood brother in Sajad who hate our Dai with the same venom, both of you have zero faith and come out with hatred and your info is all hearsay

[Al Zulfiqar]

Interesting Zulfikar , finally you have a blood brother in Sajad who hate our Dai with the same venom, both of you have zero faith and come out with hatred and your info is all hearsay

the imamuzzaman hates the bad things the syedna is doing in the name of religion. he is a renegade and so are u.

i have tons of faith that one day this evil dynasty will end and suffer their fate as did yazid and his family.

all our facts about the liar syedna are supported by hard evidence available in the courts of india. where are yr facts about the beshummar ehsanat of syedna? please show some proof here of his charity; schools, colleges, orphanages, homes for widows and poor bohra women, charitable trusts. please name atleast 3 of each.

[East Africawalla]

Thousand of mosques built during syednas reign, all the schools in Africa, all the medical centres , all the charity donations given in the last few years

You are in different planet , you are just not willing to accept the good things this dawat has done, the descipline, the improvement in way of life, the respect the community has, the influence with different head of states including the Royal family in UK

The saifee hospital in Mumbai is an example

[Anwar]

EAW can you please give som names of schools, charity, medical centers etc, that moulana has contributed to?
Thousands of mosques???????????? Where? in which world??????
Please please enlighten us the ignorant ones.

[seeker110]

Get the appraisal for land and building where the masjids were paid for by the community.See the price that was collected,and then given to Syedna.A real estate appraiser will tell you whats it worth.These people only believe in god called Money

[ghulam muhammed]

Thousand of mosques built during syednas reign, all the schools in Africa, all the medical centres , all the charity donations given in the last few years

Thousands of mosques built by syedna WITH HIS OWN MONEY ??? Name atleast a few. Masjids are built by community's money (amount extorted to build 1 masjid is enough to build more then 50), Masjids are for bohras only and not the Muslim Ummah hence it is NOT the House of Allah swt. Masjid is owned by your master who transfers the asset on his name much prior to its innaugaration. Masjids are used for his own publicity and propaganda and issue of various farmaans to extort money from the community hence it is his private property wherein Allah swt has no stake or claim.

Mention the names of just a couple of schools built by HIS OWN MONEY and whether if any are comparable to the elite institutions of that region.

Mention the names of a couple of medical centres BUILT BY HIS OWN MONEY where free medical treatment is given to the needy.

Mention the names of a couple of charity donations created out of HIS OWN FUNDS which have genuinely helped the needy bohras.