stupid progressive jokers are really funny

[Muttaqun]

normally i am so busy with my business but when i am really bored and really want some stupid ideas i visit this forum....hehe, so far this progressive jokers have entertain me so much, hardly they can do some thing solid on ground what they do is just type hell lot of funny things on INTERNET which hardly matters to any one.i am sure most of this jokers are old dirty retired fags who dont have any JOB left on earth other then thinking crap and back biting.

any ways keep it up u are providing good entertainment so far...hahahaha

[Al Zulfiqar]

bro. muttaqun,

a blind follower of syedna and his unislamic practices like yrself should not be visiting here at all without the raza of your haqiqi kaaba and natiq-e-quran and laughing at reformist jokes aimed to highlight the nonsensical things going on in our community, to enjoy yrself. it is absolute tauheen of aqa maula and na-farmaani which will lead you straight to hell.

whenever you are bored and need ideas, you should go for sabaks and taweel bayans which will be far more entertaining. also u shud start planning how you are going to donate your khaal to syedna so he can make jootis for himself. and in fact you should treat yrself to a great spiritually uplifting experience by undertaking a killing spree of endangered wild animals alongwith syedna and his retinue, and earn lots of excitement and sawab too in the bargain.

if you need any more ideas on what to do when you are bored, please do not hesitate to ask.

[Muttaqun]

^you are the most funniest guy on this forum,by the way i am not blind follower of any one being dawoodi bohra and to follow syedna sahaab is my personal choice i know what my Quraan says and whats is HAQ . i dont need your f!@#$ing advice about what i shud do...just play ur prank and brain wash stupid illiterate udaipuriyas. i am sure most of them have never came out from the black hole called udaipur lol haha i just laugh on ur stupid behavior on INTERNET coz basically u guys cant do any thing in real world.

ps-dont call me ur bro u dont deserve to be my bro.

[accountability]

Well on this forum we have, Porous, kaaka akela, Humsafar, saifuddin insaf, average bohra, biradar, qaim ( he was for the administration, but learned) and lot more. Their knowledge will out do any blind follower's knowhow. It is a fact that orthodox have very little or no knowledge about religion which they claim to own. Even their knowledge about main stream event is miniscule. You claim to be busy business man ON this forum I have not seen one intellictual debate by Orthodox bohras, it is irony that orthodoxy can only produce your type of intellect. Your frustraton is obvious from your posts. Look at yourself, by comparison your post is the only entertainer of the day.
Take it as costructive criticism, try to get acknowledged about religion, about the life you are living.
And believe it there aren't any buddha khoosat among progressives, you bet they are very young and charming but with something in their upper chamber.
By the way dont get offended by being called brother, AZ only meant woh wala bhai.

[Muttaqun]

haha young and charming? my foot.... i have seen proggressive bohra pics on internet and i was so amazed how could a muslim can be so cursed faced,hardly any one with beard and women are without hijaab,i am sure most dont even offer obligatory prayers and u talk about islam? lolllll but any ways that can be punishment from Allah on ur stupidity for denying HAQ and rest of punishment waiting for u hereafter Inshallah.ameen

[Muttaqun]

he looks like a cobbler


http://dawoodi-bohras.com/images/engineer.jpg


ROFL

[Muttaqun]

and here is your hijaab lolllll

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/uploads/image ... jlis-2.jpg

hahahaha this is what happens when u go against HAQ and deny truth

[Muttaqun]

lemme get my glasses to find some one with beard sunnate Muhammed(saw)


http://dawoodi-bohras.com/uploads/image ... jlis-1.jpg


instead of wasting time on internet go and teach this people about ISLAM


ROFL

[Al Zulfiqar]

by the way i am not blind follower of any one being dawoodi bohra and to follow syedna sahaab is my personal choice i know what my Quraan says and whats is HAQ . i dont need your f!@#$ing advice about what i shud do...just play ur prank and brain wash stupid illiterate udaipuriyas. i am sure most of them have never came out from the black hole called udaipur lol haha i just laugh on ur stupid behavior on INTERNET coz basically u guys cant do any thing in real world.

ps-dont call me ur bro u dont deserve to be my bro.

1. addressing you as brother is part of normal etiquette in greeting anyone who belongs to the human race. since you have chosen not to be human, so be it.
2. your logic is self-defeating in stating that you cannot be a blind follower being a dawoodi bohra and staunch abde syedna. both those points are mutually contradictory. either you are a staunch abde syedna or you are not a blind follower. you cannot be both at once. go figure...
3. the reformist udaipuris have more knowledge of islam and our deen and are much more literate and aware of their rights than brainwashed abde's like you. the statement that you have made, in itself betrays your ignorant and prejudiced mindset.
4. udaipuris are spread out all over the world and belong to both jamaats, the reformist as well as the orthodox, where they proudly declare their origins and are feared by the amils for their affiliations and independence.
4. as for your knowledge of the quran, do you know that the majority of things the syedna and his coterie are doing is unislamic? do you read and understand arabic or do you just blindly swallow whatever your natiq-e quran says? for eg. the annual lavish shikar trips of syedna and his family in africa undertaken by bribing corrupt govt officials is a blasphemy and sacrilege against Allah's farmans, that too by a supposedly natiq-e-quran and Allah na dai. do you need me to quote all the various injunctions from the quran against wilful hunting and destruction of god's creatures and inflicting cruelty against them for sport and deriving sadistic pleasure from it? here are a few examples for you to learn and ponder:

The Qur'an Majeed states that man has dominion over animals: "He (God) it is Who made you vicegerents on earth." (Qur'an 35:39), but makes clear that this responsibility is not unconditional and states what happens to those who misuse their freedom of choice and fail to conform to the conditions that limit this responsibility: "then We reduce him (to the status of) the lowest of the low." (Qur'an 95:4,5) "…they are those whom Allah has rejected and whom He has condemned….because they served evil" (Qur'an 5:63). "…they have hearts wherewith they fail to comprehend, and eyes wherewith they fail to see, and ears wherewith they fail to hear….Such (humans) are far astray from the right path. (Qur'an 7:179).

There are…people who take the concept of man's dominion over animals as a licentious freedom to break all the established moral rules designed to protect animal rights and instead engage in wanton killing of animals for sport or pleasure. The Imam Hazrat Ali has this to say about (those who misuse their authority over the weak, which includes animals): "A savage and ferocious beast is better than a wicked and tyrant ruler."

Again, the Qur'an Majeed urges in remonstrance: "And be not like those who say, 'we have heard', while they do not hearken. Verily, the vilest of all creatures, in the sight of Allah, are those deaf and dumb ones who do not use their rationality." (Qur'an 8:21,22).

The Qur'an Majeed says: "There is not an animal on earth, nor a bird that flies on its wings, but they are communities like you…". (Qur'an 6:38).
The Holy Prophet used to say: "Whoever is kind to the creatures of God, is kind to himself."

The significant point to note is that, physically, man has been put in the same bracket as all other species. The following Hadith leaves no ambiguity in the scene in which the Qur'an Majeed uses the word 'community': Prophet Muhammad is reported as telling of an incident that happened to another prophet in the past. This prophet was stung by an ant and, in anger, he ordered the whole of the ants' nest to be burned. At this, God reprimanded this prophet in these words: 'because one ant stung you, you have burned a whole community which glorified Me'.

Holy Prophet Muhammad(s) laid so much emphasis on this point that he declared: "There is no man who kills {even} a sparrow or anything smaller, without its deserving it, but God will question him about it. He who takes pity {even} on a sparrow and spares its life, Allah will be merciful on him on the Day of Judgement."

now do you still claim to be a scholar of islam and say you know what is haq? you choose to "blindly" follow a spiritual leader who himself violates Allahs' farmaans and the haq of god's own creatures and calls himself natiq-e-quran????

your attitude and your language both betray the type of upbringing, education and values you have, which is not surprising considering how the entire orthodox bohra community is being led today.

[Muttaqun]

Chapter 5 verse number 55
{ إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَٱلَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ ٱلَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ ٱلصَّلاَةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ ٱلزَّكَاةَ وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ }

now shut up and brain wash some more udaipuryaas

[admirer]

now shut up and brain wash some more udaipuryaas

just play ur prank and brain wash stupid illiterate udaipuriyas. i am sure most of them have never came out from the black hole called udaipur

Muttaqun,

What makes you think that all Udaipuris are progressive minded.
You have no right to stereotype people.
Its just like when foreigners say that all Muslims are Jihadis.

[Smart]

@Muttaqun,
It is clear from your posts that you have nothing to contribute rationally, so you are trying the time tested trick of ridiculing people who disagree with your prejudices. Does that convince anybody?

[Al Zulfiqar]

muttaqun,

you will be well advised to remember that this is a progressive dawoodi bohra forum where your visiting and posting views contradictory to our own is permitted and healthy debates are encouraged, unlike the fanatic and sycophantic sites of the orthos like maalumat, zeninfo, etc etc which will never allow any free, fearless and democratic debates.

but that does not mean that you can use indecent, vulgar and foul language against anyone if you dont agree with them. if you cannot keep a civil tongue and do not agree to whatever is posted here, u are free to stop coming here, but not to abuse like the kothar utters lanats against anyone who opposes them. posting here is a privilege, not your right.

admin pls note.

[Muttaqun]

^for your information you are not worth of any debates coz basically u dont understand concept of ISLAM....islaam is all about submission to GOD and his will unlike you guys,u are worshipping your own nafs and making your own ideas about islaam and moderation....i am just here to laugh on your stupidity and your narrow mindness.

[like_minded]

i am just here to laugh on your stupidity and your narrow mindness.

Being called YELLOW by a bunch of bananas!!

[jungle999]

Al Zulfiqar bhai who ever trys explain to this brainwashed abde's AND Muttaqun it will not go to their brains its like hitting their brains ageinst the wall.ALL because thats how the kothers trasmit in to their brains plus the have no beans to speak to their amils and their is no free speech in kothars land so they come to this form.
Muttaqun; wrote islaam is all about submission to GOD ? I dont think you know the meaning of it .O by the way Muttaqun it doesnt matter how you look or wear its whats in your heart that counts.so i request you to go back to the amil and learn about real submission to GOD.and then come back on this form.no heart filling.

[jungle999]

sorry i mean head not brain

[mutmaeen]

slective outrage

those who object to incivil language are themselves guilty of using it on this very forum

if all udaipuris cannot be and they mustnt be castigated-so should all the mainstreamers can not be mocked at as abdes-brainwashed and unintellectual

its absolutely fine to have a soft corner for the animals but human life too is equally or more precious-so when no opportunity is missed to hurl tirades at syedna for his hunting equally the wahabi human bombs should be condemned too-the so called purists who understand quran to the q-huh?

[Udaipuri]

Dear Mutt (aqun),

Thank you, thank you, thank you.... for singling udaipuriyas out and showering us with your ruhani blessings. We love the attention and deserve it too. After all weren't we the ones who barred Sayedna from entering Udaipur for 30 years??? quite a feat, don't you think so???..... and even today he can't dare enter our city whenever he likes, and if he does you can be sure of a noisy and unpleasant reception. We maybe illiterates but we have guts and enough intelligence to keep ourselves from being fooled and defrauded. What is the use of all your education if it can't help you live a life of dignity... free from humiliation and extortion. And ISLAM?? Trying to equate Sayedna's administration with Islam is both an insult to Islam and to all Muslims. You should be ashamed of yourself. Shame on you. Shame on you.

[Muttaqun]

^kazzab cant u speak a bigger lie? not just you but even ur forefathers cant restrict syedna to enter any city any where and any time...he is sultaan and sultaan dont care about barking dogs.shame on you...

"jis thaali mein khaate ho usi mein thukte hoo" this line suites you

[Smart]

@Muttaqun,
Quoting you "Islaam is about submission to God and his will". Do the orthodox Bohras do that? Is it not about submission to a human and his will, however exalted? Do the orthodox Bohras follow Islam?

However on second thought, reason does not matter to you. Like your thought leader and his so called royal(?) family, you cannot reason, so the only thing you can do call others names, swear at them and hurl bad words at them, without saying why.

Go ahead and do it. Orthies are only 0.01% of the world's population and the rest of the world gets along fine without you. Keep on barking!!!

[Udaipuri]

Mutt, it's not a lie...........check with your forefathers and they will tell you the real deal. And i challenge you and your kothar to arrange the Sultan's trip to Udaipur and see what a ruckus we create!!! The last time he visited some 10 years ago he could not even enter the main bohra mohalla, he remained on the outskirts and stayed at some resort.

And sorry to disappoint you ... i do not eat from anyone's thali but my own. Bohra thaali meiN (aur bohroN ki jaiboN meiN) cheD karne waale to tumhi log ho!!!! Dono ke phate haal haiN!!!!!

[Al Zulfiqar]

^kazzab cant u speak a bigger lie? not just you but even ur forefathers cant restrict syedna to enter any city any where and any time...he is sultaan and sultaan dont care about barking dogs.shame on you...

"jis thaali mein khaate ho usi mein thukte hoo" this line suites you

if no one can stop syedna, then why isnt he going for haj or umra since last 20 years? or is ashura picnic in various exotic locations more important than haj..????

and muttaqun, quoting chapter 55, verse 5 proved what? that refers to 'walayah', which the shias interpret as conferment on ali. what has that got to do with the dai? or is it being taught now in yr taweel that the verse refers to dai's? you have conveniently ignored my post where i have proved that a person who takes away the haq of other living beings, incl mute animals, cannot claim to be a haq na leader of anyone.

[Safiuddin]

Muttaqun, in just 15 posts you have shown the world how much knowledge and integrity you posess. Instead of flinging filth and laanats here, try and read some of the postings on this forum- maybe you can learn something. From the grammar and style of your posts, and the language that you use, it's quite clear that you do need some education. Reactionary statements stemming from your antipathy of the progressive movement serve no one's best interest. Using foul and abusive language is only the realm of the chidish and jahaaliya - and are obviated on this forum.
If you are such a "busy businessman", then it doesn't make sense that you seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time "entertaining' yourself. People such as yourself are welcome here - in fact, I hope to see more people like you. Your words make it apparent what the steering of Burhanuddin has produced.


And as Al Zulfiqar has said, posting here is a privelege and not your right. Please remember that. Other members have been removed from this forum for doing the same.

[Muttaqun]

^saifuljaahila just look at the pics above you will get all your answers lol

[admirer]

The last time he visited some 10 years ago he could not even enter the main bohra mohalla, he remained on the outskirts and stayed at some resort.

Last time when Syendna visited Udaipur, he was there for over 20 days. During that period there were 2 waaz in the masjid in Moiyyedpura and there was imamt namaz everyday. Not to forget other functions that were held in the same masjid. Besides, he also visited Syedi Lukmanji Moula's Roza.

Only if you thought Moiyyedpura was not a part of Bohra Mohalla would you be correct. You need to get your facts right about Udaipur.

And Moula TUS stayed in a house in Saheli Nagar. Only if you thought it was a resort..

Stating wrong facts won't serve any purpose.

[Muttaqun]

The last time he visited some 10 years ago he could not even enter the main bohra mohalla, he remained on the outskirts and stayed at some resort.

Last time when Syendna visited Udaipur, he was there for over 20 days. During that period there were 2 waaz in the masjid in Moiyyedpura and there was imamt namaz everyday. Not to forget other functions that were held in the same masjid. Besides, he also visited Syedi Lukmanji Moula's Roza.

Only if you thought Moiyyedpura was not a part of Bohra Mohalla would you be correct. You need to get your facts right about Udaipur.

And Moula TUS stayed in a house in Saheli Nagar. Only if you thought it was a resort..

Stating wrong facts won't serve any purpose.

no wonder brother this guys are just expert in lieying and manipulating truth

[Udaipuri]

admirer,

I checked and found out that you're right - thank you for correcting me. But it is true that Sayedna could not visit Udaipur for 30 years or so, and even today he can't visit freely because reformists will give him a run for his money (and given the limited amount he can collect from Udaipur his handlers know that it is not worth the trouble ).

[admirer]

I fail to understand what progressives are fighting for..

On one hand, you claim to be Dawoodi Bohras, but openly abuse Syedna. And you think that the only purpose for Syedna's travel to a place is to mint money..

And on the other some of you say that the problem is with Kothar and the Amils.

I think you should get the purpose and cause right first!

And as far as Moula's visit to Udaipur is concerned, I think it's sheer misfortune of people in Udaipur that they are being mahroom of the barakat. And there is no way to stop Moula from coming to Udaipur if he wishes to!

So, I would like to hear some better reasons other than just linking money and fraud to the problems of Dawoodi Bohras.

Why, I say, India is ridden with deep rooted corruption. Has anyone ever thought of challenging anyone or doing any good for the society?

[Muttaqun]

I M again here and no wonder, again this forum is flooded with stupid threads like 'how much gold do panjaten need?'(naudobillah)

moderator of this forum must be a pig head to allow such morons to start threads with this subjects which is direct violation of ISLAM and insult to panjetan pak(alahi salaam)...

may Allah curse those monkey face bastar!@4rds and that egg head moderator who is running this non sense forum against ISLAM.