jo sudhar gaya.. woh gaya upar..maalum

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wise_guy
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jo sudhar gaya.. woh gaya upar..maalum

#1

Unread post by wise_guy » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:53 pm

Watch this dialogue from Agneepath (1990)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9No2RPVlZlg

we don't need reform... if all are reformed, then everyone would die.... :shock:

anajmi
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#2

Unread post by anajmi » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:41 pm

So you agree that your Dai is not sudhrela aadmi but a goonda right?

wise_guy
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Unread post by wise_guy » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:28 pm

I don't think that the Dai which is holding a august position is responsible for all the mess. Its the middle men who are creating the mess. The local Aamils, jamaat members etc. and the supporting chamchaas. Anyways all is not lost. The Houston Aamil saheb who somewhat distantly relates to the Royal family is very good and lenient, never forces anyone to give money. He is very helpful, can be approached easily. His wife is also very humble.

In this forum of protests and abuses, people have forgotten good things happening in the community. I have seen, how people from other muslim communities have gone astray. Due to efforts of Huzurala(TUS), mumineen have given up interest in business transactions, given up alcohol, smoking. Very few bohri people might be drinking/smoking.

Abusing and holding the Dai responsible for everything is not proper. He is holding a position of great repute and responsibility and is answerable to the Imam and Allah subanahu.

All the Duats (plural of Dai) have been facing opposition from people of their time and this is nothing new. The Dawat is moving. Not only the Duats, starting from Rasullah (saw), everyone faced opposition. Remember, 'Satyamev Jayte' Truth always prevails. One who is true will never have to fear but Allah and one who is false, has to fear everyone.

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:26 am

So you are saying the the middle men should not sudhrofy but remain Goondas like Vijay Dinanath Chauhan? And if your Dai shouldn't be blamed for his goondas then who are you going to blame?
one who is false, has to fear everyone
Starting with the Kothari fund collectors who send shiver down an abdes spine.

wise_guy
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Unread post by wise_guy » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:15 pm

u r taking this topic on a serious note... this is a lighter side forum

anajmi
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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:51 pm

Yeah, everything abdes mention should normally be taken lightly.

ghulam muhammed
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:02 pm

wise_guy wrote:I don't think that the Dai which is holding a august position is responsible for all the mess. Its the middle men who are creating the mess. The local Aamils, jamaat members etc. and the supporting chamchaas.
This subject has been discussed endless number of times in the past. However for some answers read below :-

WHY IS THE DAI NOT HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR EVILS IN BOHRAISM.
http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... f=1&t=6888