Muslims and Jews

[khuzema]

Guys help me understanding the situation, I appreciate your help: -

Pretty amazing

15 millions Jews are 100 times more powerful then 1.3 billion Muslims.

Jews control American and Europe. They have control over all the big organizations. They control almost entire media.

If they are so smart then why can’t they make peace in Middle East? Why are they attacking Lebanon and increasing hatred?

How did they become so smart?

Is it just because of luck? What is the secret of their success?

I think luck played a big rule in making them successful otherwise why can’t they have good relationship with their neighbors?

1000 years back Muslims use to rule the world then White people started ruling the world and now Jews rule the world. In their peak time one thing was/is common among all of the above groups that they were/are more educated then rest of the world.

What do you guys think? Any comments from the elite group here?

I am trying to understand 2 things

1. Why are Jews so powerful?

2. If they are smart then why can’t they live peacefully with their neighbors?

[SBM]

Why are Jews so powerful?
Answer is the following
>
>There are only 14 million Jews in the world; seven million in the Americas,
>five million in Asia, two million in Europe and 100,000 in Africa. For
>every single Jew in the world there are 100 Muslims. Yet, Jews are more
>than a hundred times more powerful than all the Muslims put together. Ever
>wondered why?
>
>Jesus of Nazareth was Jewish. Albert Einstein, the most influential
>scientist of all time and TIME magazine's 'Person of the Century', was a
>Jew. Sigmund Freud -- id, ego, superego -- the father of psychoanalysis was
>a Jew. So were Karl Marx, Paul Samuelson and Milton Friedman.
>
>Here are a few other Jews whose intellectual output has enriched the whole
>humanity: Benjamin Rubin gave humanity the vaccinating needle. Jonas Salk
>developed the first polio vaccine. Alert Sabin developed the improved live
>polio vaccine. Gertrude Elion gave us a leukaemia fighting drug. Baruch
>Blumberg developed the vaccination for Hepatitis B. Paul Ehrlich discovered
>a treatment for syphilis (a sexually transmitted disease). Elie Metchnikoff
>won a Nobel Prize in infectious diseases.
>
>Bernard Katz won a Nobel Prize in neuromuscular transmission. Andrew
>Schally won a Nobel in endocrinology (disorders of the endocrine system;
>diabetes, hyperthyroidism). Aaron Beck founded Cognitive Therapy
>(psychotherapy to treat mental disorders, depression and phobias). Gregory
>Pincus developed the first oral contraceptive pill. George Wald won a Nobel
>for furthering our understanding of the human eye. Stanley Cohen won a
>Nobel in embryology (study of embryos and their development). Willem Kolff
>came up with the kidney dialysis machine.
>
>Over the past 105 years, 14 million Jews have won 15-dozen Nobel Prizes
>while only three Nobel Prizes have been won by 1.4 billion Muslims (other
>than Peace Prizes).
>
>Why are Jews so powerful? Stanley Mezor invented the first micro-processing
>chip. Leo Szilard developed the first nuclear chain reactor. Peter Schultz,
>optical fibre cable; Charles Adler, traffic lights; Benno Strauss,
>Stainless steel; Isador Kisee, sound movies; Emile Berliner, telephone
>microphone and Charles Ginsburg, videotape recorder.
>
>Famous financiers in the business world who belong to Jewish faith include
>Ralph Lauren (Polo), Levis Strauss (Levi's Jeans), Howard Schultz
>(Starbuck's), Sergey Brin (Google), Michael Dell (Dell Computers), Larry
>Ellison (Oracle), Donna Karan (DKNY), Irv Robbins (Baskins & Robbins) and
>Bill Rosenberg (Dunkin Donuts).
>
>Richard Levin, President of Yale University, is a Jew. So are Henry
>Kissinger (American secretary of state), Alan Greenspan (fed chairman under
>Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush), Joseph Lieberman, Madeleine Albright
>(American secretary of state), Casper Weinberger (American secretary of
>defence), Maxim Litvinov (USSR foreign Minister), David Marshal
>(Singapore's first chief minister), Issac Isaacs (governor-general of
>Australia), Benjamin Disraeli (British statesman and author), Yevgeny
>Primakov (Russian PM), Barry Goldwater, Jorge Sampaio (president of
>Portugal), John Deutsch (CIA director), Herb Gray (Canadian deputy PM),
>Pierre Mendes (French PM), Michael Howard (British home secretary), Bruno
>Kreisky (chancellor of Austria) and Robert Rubin (American secretary of
>treasury).
>
>In the media, famous Jews include Wolf Blitzer (CNN), Barbara Walters (ABC
>News), Eugene Meyer (Washington Post), Henry Grunwald (editor-in-chief
>Time), Katherine Graham (publisher of The Washington Post), Joseph Lelyyeld
>(Executive editor, The New York Times), and Max Frankel (New York Times).
>
>Can you name the most beneficent philanthropist in the history of the
>world? The name is George Soros, a Jew, who has so far donated a colossal
>$4 billion most of which has gone as aid to scientists and universities
>around the world. Second to George Soros is Walter Annenberg, another Jew,
>who has built a hundred libraries by donating an estimated $2 billion.
>
>At the Olympics, Mark Spitz set a record of sorts by wining seven gold
>medals. Lenny Krayzelburg is a three-time Olympic gold medalist. Spitz,
>Krayzelburg and Boris Becker are all Jewish.
>
>Did you know that Harrison Ford, George Burns, Tony Curtis, Charles
>Bronson, Sandra Bullock, Billy Crystal, Woody Allen, Paul Newman, Peter
>Sellers, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Douglas, Ben Kingsley, Kirk Douglas,
>Goldie Hawn, Cary Grant, William Shatner, Jerry Lewis and Peter Falk are
>all Jewish? As a matter of fact, Hollywood itself was founded by a Jew.
>Among directors and producers, Steven Spielberg, Mel Brooks, Oliver Stone,
>Aaron Spelling (Beverly Hills 90210), Neil Simon (The Odd Couple), Andrew
>Vaina (Rambo 1/2/3), Michael Man (Starsky and Hutch), Milos Forman (One
>flew over the Cuckoo's Nest), Douglas Fairbanks (The thief of Baghdad) and
>Ivan Reitman (Ghostbusters) are all Jewish.
>
>To be certain, Washington is the capital that matters and in Washington the
>lobby that matters is The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or
>AIPAC. Washington knows that if PM Ehud Olmert were to discover that the
>earth is flat, AIPAC will make the 109th Congress pass a resolution
>congratulating Olmert on his discovery.
>
>William James Sidis, with an IQ of 250-300, is the brightest human who ever
>existed. Guess what faith did he belong to?
>
>So, why are Jews so powerful? Answer: Education.
Other reason we Muslims are too much hung up on our glorious past and forgot present and future.
Mullahs and Imamns have not helped either, they are afraid if Muslims learn then they might loose control over their flocks. Look at our own community of Bohras, once a very proserous community has now turn to a blind, suppressed community. Once there were no beggers in Bohra community but after the last 2 Dais have sucked enough blood that you find Bohra beggers outside most of Ziyarats.
>

[tahir]

Why does a Jew pick his nose?
It's cheaper than using a tissue.

Why is the rhinoceros jealous of Jews?
Jews have bigger noses.

What time is bed time at the Jew's house?
When electricity is too expensive.

What is the worst stain on a Jew's underwear?
Lipstick from a Jewess

Why does the Jew do after one of his friends leaves?
He checks the sofa for loose change.

Why do Jewish girls think prostitution is such good business?
"Ya got it, ya sell it, ya still got it!"

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The Israeli Prime Minister is sitting down with Yasser Arafat to try to work out an agreement.

The Prime Minister asks if he might first tell a story. Arafat tells him to go ahead.

"When Moses was in the desert for forty years the Jews got very thirsty and Moses asked the Lord for water and there appeared a beautiful lake. The Jews first drank and then bathed themselves. Moses did the same but when he came out of the water his clothes were gone."

Moses shouted, "Where are my clothes? Who took them??"

The Jews answered, 'The Palestinians took them.'

Arafat quickly objected, "There were no Palestinians at that time!"

The Prime Minister looked at Arafat and said, "Now we can begin to negotiate."

[tahir]

Originally posted by omabharti:

>Did you know that Harrison Ford, George Burns, Tony Curtis, Charles
>Bronson, Sandra Bullock, Billy Crystal, Woody Allen, Paul Newman, Peter
>Sellers, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Douglas, Ben Kingsley, Kirk Douglas,
>Goldie Hawn, Cary Grant, William Shatner, Jerry Lewis and Peter Falk are
>all Jewish? As a matter of fact, Hollywood itself was founded by a Jew.
>Among directors and producers, Steven Spielberg, Mel Brooks, Oliver Stone,
>Aaron Spelling (Beverly Hills 90210), Neil Simon (The Odd Couple), Andrew
>Vaina (Rambo 1/2/3), Michael Man (Starsky and Hutch), Milos Forman (One
>flew over the Cuckoo's Nest), Douglas Fairbanks (The thief of Baghdad) and
>Ivan Reitman (Ghostbusters) are all Jewish.

How dare you forget Winona Ryder and Alicia Silverstone...

Many in the above list are not practicing Jews or are half Jews, that however doesn't undermine the achievement of Jews in the entertainment industry.

Inclusion of Ben Kingsley intrigues me though. His real name is Krishna Bhanji. He was born to a Hindu father in Gujrat (India). As far as I remember, her mother was a British Christian. May be she was half a Jew and so Kingsley qualifies for the jew list.

[Masoom Sehrai]

By: Dr Farrukh Saleem (The NEWS,Karachi)

There are an estimated 1,476,233,470 Muslims on the face of the planet: one billion in Asia, 400 million in Africa, 44 million in Europe and six million in the Americas. Every fifth human being is a Muslim; for every single Hindu there are two Muslims, for every Buddhist there are two Muslims and for every Jew there are one hundred Muslims. Ever wondered why Muslims are so powerless?

Here is why: There are 57 member-countries of the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC), and all of them put together have around 500 universities; one university for every three million Muslims. The United States has 5,758 universities and India has 8,407. In 2004, Shanghai Jiao Tong University compiled an 'Academic Ranking of World Universities', and intriguingly, not one university from Muslim-majority states was in the top-500.

As per data collected by the UNDP, literacy in the Christian world stands at nearly 90 per cent and 15 Christian-majority states have a literacy rate of 100 per cent. A Muslim-majority state, as a sharp contrast, has an average literacy rate of around 40 per cent and there is no Muslim-majority state with a literacy rate of 100 per cent. Some 98 per cent of the 'literates' in the Christian world had completed primary school, while less than 50 per cent of the 'literates' in the Muslim world did the same. Around 40 per cent of the 'literates' in the Christian world attended university while no more than two per cent of the 'literates' in the Muslim world did the same.

Muslim-majority countries have 230 scientists per one million Muslims. The US has 4,000 scientists per million and Japan has 5,000 per million. In the entire Arab world, the total number of full-time researchers is 35,000 and there are only 50 technicians per one million Arabs (in the Christian world there are up to 1,000 technicians per one million). Furthermore, the Muslim world spends 0.2 per cent of its GDP on research and development, while the Christian world spends around five per cent of its GDP.

Conclusion: The Muslim world lacks the capacity to produce knowledge.

Daily newspapers per 1,000 people and number of book titles per million are two indicators of whether knowledge is being diffused in a society. In Pakistan, there are 23 daily newspapers per 1,000 Pakistanis while the same ratio in Singapore is 360. In the UK, the number of book titles per million stands at 2,000 while the same in Egypt is 20.

Conclusion: The Muslim world is failing to diffuse knowledge.

Exports of high technology products as a percentage of total exports are an important indicator of knowledge application. Pakistan's exports of high technology products as a percentage of total exports stands at one per cent. The same for Saudi Arabia is 0.3 per cent; Kuwait, Morocco, and Algeria are all at 0.3 per cent while Singapore is at 58 per cent. Conclusion: The Muslim world is failing to apply knowledge.

Why are Muslims powerless? Because we aren't producing knowledge.

Why are Muslims powerless? Because we aren't diffusing knowledge.

Why are Muslims powerless? Because we aren't applying knowledge. And, the future belongs to knowledge-based societies.

Interestingly, the combined annual GDP of 57 OIC-countries is under $2 trillion. America, just by herself, produces goods and services worth $12 trillion; China $8 trillion, Japan $3.8 trillion and Germany $2.4 trillion (purchasing power parity basis).

Oil rich Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait and Qatar collectively produce goods and services (mostly oil) worth $500 billion; Spain alone produces goods and services worth over $1 trillion, Catholic Poland $489 billion and Buddhist Thailand $545 billion (Muslim GDP as a percentage of world GDP is fast declining).

So, why are Muslims so powerless? Answer: Lack of education.



The writer is an Islamabad-based freelance columnist

Email: farrukh15@hotmail.com

[mumineen]

Omabharti asks:

Ever wondered why Muslims are so powerless?

Part answer:

Look at on minor example of the Muslims - The Dawoodi Bohras. They are only 0.15% of the total Islami Umma.

If this is a representative example of Muslims, then God help the Muslim Umma.

Their so-called inhuman,selfish and heartless leaders and their "hangers on" are so engaged with power,control, money, corruption without regard to any social welfare, community, family unity of their flock (every opportunity they get, they do their level best to split up and torture Bohri familes to satisfy their unsatiable lust for money and power).

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy make them mad and powerless first.

[seeker110]

The biggest thing we forget is work ethics.I have worked with Jews,they can be dumb as the next guy.however,they have the best work ethics.

The only people that can come close to them are the Budhists(china Korea and japan).The diffrence among the two is greed.

I say we change starting with our work ethics.The only way to do that is take off the religious obligations.We spend more time on religion then any other human beings on earth.We will always leave the same problems for the next generation.

The first thing the Jewish fellow learns is politics and religion is a no no.Dont talk about it.Take those two out of your daily life,you will have time to do all the necessary things which matter in life.Beneficial to yourself your children and mankind on the whole.

Create hobbies other than reading.The reason is you dont want to get too comfortable.Do the best you can.Just make sure you are standing up.No work is suppose to be easy,hard or dirty.

Exercise,and loose the weight.I read once Hazrat Ali said that keep the size of the stomack smaller then your chest.Have a strong hand shake.

I did not invent anything here,these are the qualities of my enemy.I can only beat him if I go farther then him.

Salams,May Allah make you strong and stronger than your enemy.

[professor]

It's too common to blame our poor education for our backwardness.

The facts tell us something else.

1. Srilanka, literacy rate about 90%
2. Phillipines 90%
3. Malasia 80%
4. Thailand 87%
5. Vietnam 85%
6. India 67%

yet they are the most destitute nations of the world. You find almost the same rate of literacy in many western countries.

Though I entirely agree with the importance of education and sometimes hold it as the master key to solve all the problems of the world. Yet as, we noticed, some other factors also contribute.

As far as Jewish advancement is concerned their wealth and work attitude are the major factors for what they are.

400 world's richest men of the world has the wealth which is equal to the income of 3 billion (half the world population) people of the world according to UNDP. As I don't know some of you can help me find out how many of them are jews. I presume 25% of them. Hence so much of wealth they have acquired in the world which help them to spend on research, studies and so on. The greed plays a vital role in their coming up.

[khuzema]

Thanks a lot guys for your input.

I am frustrated. We are very non-violent people but still we are labeled as terrorists. The NEWS are sooo wrong. Media is soooo corrupt. Is his democracy? I want to live peaceful. I am against of any kind of violence like majority of other Muslims do.

How many generations do you guys think it is going to take for Muslims to take education and thus the world will become more neutral.

One good thing that is happening is “Out Sourcingâ€

[tahir]

Professor,
Phillipines, Malaysia, Thailand "most"destitute nations.....huh

[professor]

Yes, Phillipines. Per capita income there is 1000$ double than India's.

Malasia's and Thailand's are better, I agree.
But my answer was in relation to education as a means to achieve prosperity vis a vis jews.

Not an economics debate.

[seeker110]

The problem with Pakistan and India is they alway compare all the development against each other.Like how far we have come on this and that,and how far behind the other is.What our aim should be is to compare and compete against Japan and USA.Until we see that happening we will stay far behind the rest of the world.

The heart of the problem is we have our pants down most of the time.Religion should start teaching us to not to have so many babies.

I have a friend in the East coast very learned but when it comes to children he feels its gods gift and he should work like chevrolet, a new model every year.

When I went to India I saw people at the airport who looked like munchkins.No wonder we cant compete in the world of sports.

Whereas in Pakistan your wealth is determined by the size of your belt.Its three things the bohras are famous for Kharas Mithas and Bypass.Bohras national sport is teen pattae(flush).Even in America right after any majlis or ocassion bohras are getting together for game of flush.

We need comunity service instead of washeek.Blue jeans should be our quomi libas.No more Jamans just bring your brown paper lunch bag.Order a pizza.

This should be directives from our leaders.Rasul Allah was the hardest worker,so was Hazrat Ali.They spent their life doing community service,all we do is talk about it.We never got the true message.

The jews were treated like blacks, so were the Irish.The only way out was charitable work.They got together in Synagogs and churches not to discuss Jannat or Jahanum.They picked up whereever or what ever the community needed.They provided free help to whoever asked for it.They cleaned parks and build hospitals and schools.

We are not smart enough to come up with our own ideas.Let take theirs,and go from there.The only people I see doing that are the Sikhs.During Harsh winter week they open the Gurdwara for any body needing a warm place and some food.They promise they will not talk religion.And they dont.

We will get in jannat for what we do for others,and not for what we do for ourselves.

Salams

[anajmi]

Some beautiful ayahs from the quran. Specially for those who are loosing hope in the current crisis.

They are a few but please read them.

003.014
YUSUFALI: Fair in the eyes of men is the love of things they covet: Women and sons; Heaped-up hoards of gold and silver; horses branded (for blood and excellence); and (wealth of) cattle and well-tilled land. Such are the possessions of this world's life; but in nearness to Allah is the best of the goals (To return to).

003.015
YUSUFALI: Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,-

003.016
YUSUFALI: (Namely), those who say: "Our Lord! we have indeed believed: forgive us, then, our sins, and save us from the agony of the Fire;"-

003.017
YUSUFALI: Those who show patience, Firmness and self-control; who are true (in word and deed); who worship devoutly; who spend (in the way of Allah); and who pray for forgiveness in the early hours of the morning.

003.018
YUSUFALI: There is no god but He: That is the witness of Allah, His angels, and those endued with knowledge, standing firm on justice. There is no god but He, the Exalted in Power, the Wise.

003.019
YUSUFALI: The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent therefrom except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account.

003.021
YUSUFALI: As to those who deny the Signs of Allah and in defiance of right, slay the prophets, and slay those who teach just dealing with mankind, announce to them a grievous penalty.

003.022
YUSUFALI: They are those whose works will bear no fruit in this world and in the Hereafter nor will they have anyone to help.

003.023
YUSUFALI: Hast thou not turned Thy vision to those who have been given a portion of the Book? They are invited to the Book of Allah, to settle their dispute, but a party of them Turn back and decline (The arbitration).

003.024
YUSUFALI: This because they say: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few numbered days": For their forgeries deceive them as to their own religion.

003.025
YUSUFALI: But how (will they fare) when we gather them together against a day about which there is no doubt, and each soul will be paid out just what it has earned, without (favour or) injustice?

003.031
YUSUFALI: Say: "If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

003.032
YUSUFALI: Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger": But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith.

003.091
YUSUFALI: As to those who reject Faith, and die rejecting,- never would be accepted from any such as much gold as the earth contains, though they should offer it for ransom. For such is (in store) a penalty grievous, and they will find no helpers.

003.138
YUSUFALI: Here is a plain statement to men, a guidance and instruction to those who fear Allah!

003.139
YUSUFALI: So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in Faith.

003.140
YUSUFALI: If a wound hath touched you, be sure a similar wound hath touched the others. Such days (of varying fortunes) We give to men and men by turns: that Allah may know those that believe, and that He may take to Himself from your ranks Martyr-witnesses (to Truth). And Allah loveth not those that do wrong.

003.141
YUSUFALI: Allah's object also is to purge those that are true in Faith and to deprive of blessing Those that resist Faith.

003.142
YUSUFALI: Did ye think that ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those of you who fought hard (In His Cause) and remained steadfast?

003.156
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Be not like the Unbelievers, who say of their brethren, when they are travelling through the Earth or engaged in fighting: "If they had stayed with us, they would not have died, or been slain." This that Allah may make it a cause of sighs and regrets in their hearts. It is Allah that gives Life and Death, and Allah sees well all that ye do.

003.157
YUSUFALI: And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass.

003.158
YUSUFALI: And if ye die, or are slain, Lo! it is unto Allah that ye are brought together.

003.178
YUSUFALI: Let not the Unbelievers think that our respite to them is good for themselves: We grant them respite that they may grow in their iniquity: But they will have a shameful punishment.

003.179
YUSUFALI: Allah will not leave the believers in the state in which ye are now, until He separates what is evil from what is good nor will He disclose to you the secrets of the Unseen. But He chooses of His Messengers (For the purpose) whom He pleases. So believe in Allah. And His messengers: And if ye believe and do right, ye have a reward without measure.

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YUSUFALI: And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them: "Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: Ye are members, one of another: Those who have left their homes, or been driven out therefrom, or suffered harm in My Cause, or fought or been slain,- verily, I will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath;- A reward from the presence of Allah, and from His presence is the best of rewards."

003.196
YUSUFALI: Let not the strutting about of the Unbelievers through the land deceive thee:

003.197
YUSUFALI: Little is it for enjoyment: Their ultimate abode is Hell: what an evil bed (To lie on)!

003.198
YUSUFALI: On the other hand, for those who fear their Lord, are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath; therein are they to dwell (for ever),- a gift from the presence of Allah; and that which is in the presence of Allah is the best (bliss) for the righteous.

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YUSUFALI: Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.

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YUSUFALI: There is the type of man whose speech about this world's life May dazzle thee, and he calls Allah to witness about what is in his heart; yet is he the most contentious of enemies.

002.205
YUSUFALI: When he turns his back, His aim everywhere is to spread mischief through the earth and destroy crops and cattle. But Allah loveth not mischief.

002.206
YUSUFALI: When it is said to him, "Fear Allah", He is led by arrogance to (more) crime. Enough for him is Hell;-An evil bed indeed (To lie on)!

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YUSUFALI: And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah: And Allah is full of kindness to (His) devotees.

002.208
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Enter into Islam whole-heartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the evil one; for he is to you an avowed enemy.

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YUSUFALI: The life of this world is alluring to those who reject faith, and they scoff at those who believe. But the righteous will be above them on the Day of Resurrection; for Allah bestows His abundance without measure on whom He will.

[anajmi]

Specially these three

003.196
YUSUFALI: Let not the strutting about of the Unbelievers through the land deceive thee:

003.197
YUSUFALI: Little is it for enjoyment: Their ultimate abode is Hell: what an evil bed (To lie on)!

003.198
YUSUFALI: On the other hand, for those who fear their Lord, are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath; therein are they to dwell (for ever),- a gift from the presence of Allah; and that which is in the presence of Allah is the best (bliss) for the righteous.

[tahir]

Some more 'chosen ones' from the net. Enjoy...

Why did the Jews wander in the desert for forty years?
Somebody dropped a quarter.

How did they know Jesus was Jewish?
Because he lived at home until he was thirty, he went into his
father's business, his mother thought he was God -- and he
thought his mother was a virgin.

How do you say "screw you" in Jewish?
Trust me.

What did the JEWISH Santa say during Christmas?
Anybody want to BUY any presents.....

What is a jew's biggest dilemma?
Free pork

Which is the biblical promised planet
Jewpiter

What language does jewish gay speak?
Heblew

What's faster than a speeding bullet?
A jew with a coupon

[SBM]

AA
Like I said and again I have been proven correct,
all Muslims do is keep on harping on the glorious past (read the posting from Anjami) quoting Ayahs from Quran. If just reading the Ayahs from Quran is the salvation and solution then why hassale, stay home and read, shouldnot worry about anything On the other hand all Tahir can find are degrading jokes about Jews instead of engaging in a serious discussion and giving credit and learning from Jewish community
MAY ALLAH HELP US ALL even though he might have second thoughts on helping Muslims

[anajmi]

omabharti,

Shouting and crying on this board isn't going to help anybody. I will never again post on this board once I know that you have taken an AK-47 in your hand and proceeded to lebanon. Till then, keep reading.

[SBM]

Why do I need an AK 47 and go to Lebnon, that is your fortay, Why don't you do that instead of sitting in nice comfy A/C and keep citing Quranic Ayahs and try to impress everyone that you know more about Islam then anyone else.
Sorry for the outburst but I am sick and tired of people who think that fighting and terrorising in the only way to win hearts and minds. That is not the solution.
Jews didnot capture the world initially by taking AK-47 but with education and understanding. TIME TO LEARN FROM THEM

[anajmi]

omabharti,

Well, then maybe you should consider converting to Jewism (Judaism?), then you will be a part of the educated elite of the world and not a part of the corrupt terrorists anymore.

[anajmi]

If Allah had wanted us to be like Jews, he wouldn'tve created us diametrically opposite to them.

[anajmi]

I would rather learn from the quran and the sunnah of the prophet Muhammed than the Jews.

[professor]

I personally believe that what OM tries to say has not been properly understood. Rather we digressed from the basic topic.

He mainly stresses on spreading education amongst the muslim masses and not having that is one of the many factors for their pathetic state and on that point I fully support him.

[JC]

Tahir,

U r good man - specially Jewpiter and Heblew..!!!

Not that I am against Jews or Gays, In fact I am gay too - it is just the way you say (write).

I am against ALL religions. To me they just DIVIDE and divide and divide.

World would be a better place without religions.

And I expect tons of lectures from others..!!!

[anajmi]

professo,

Yes I agree that more Muslims should be educated more, and I don't think the quran or Islam teaches otherwise. And I don't think we need to go to the jews to figure that out.

We should ask ourselves this question though, what have the educated muslims done for the Ummah?

[tahir]

Originally posted by omabharti:

On the other hand all Tahir can find are degrading jokes about Jews instead of engaging in a serious discussion and giving credit and learning from Jewish community

Chill dude! I learned from the Jews how to lighten up during serious moments, you didn't...

Not that I am against Jews or Gays, In fact I am gay too - it is just the way you say (write).

Yes JC,
Posting jokes doesn't mean you are against someone since they are just that- jokes. Unfortunatley, not many are capable of taking these in right humour like you are.

[khuzema]

Islam is monotheistic (believe in one god) religion. Islam is not Monolithic (uniform) religion. We Muslims must make an effort to recognize and understand Islam’s plurality and internal diversity. Islam is so rich in its diversity. Diversity if understood can be out strength.

To be united it’s not necessary every one should believe exactly the same, because that is never going to happen. Everyone will never believe in exactly the same things. Even all the family member don’t think similar, how can some one expect people from to different cultures to be exactly the same. But we still can be united.

We should make an effort to recognize the pluralism in Islam.

While doing some research on Jews I have noticed that all jews don’t believe in same values. For example the FOX NEWS and New York Times both are owned by jewish with very opposite point of view. But they stand together when it come for jewish issues.

Let’s look at Prophet Muhammad’s life. He use to have very good relationship with many of his sahabas who were so different in nature. Even look at Khulafa-e-Rashedin (Rightly Guided Caliphs) they were so different in nature and believes, but were united under Islam.

[JC]

Yes Tahir, not many have that sense of humour. People have one sided opinion and we have seen this on this message board and any where at large. There are a very few times when someone tries to understand and agree with other. We all agree to disagree..!! (which is not that wrong after all). The need of the hour is to think positively and collectively. Lets get our of our cilos. Bible is right, No Torah is right, no, no Zaboor doesnot exist, NOT AT ALL Quran is right... I know it is Faith, but isn't it time we challange our Faiths and Beliefs and try to understand and appreciate others?

[khuzema]

but isn't it time we challange our Faiths and Beliefs and try to understand and appreciate others?

If we can understand and appreciate others then it is very good, but if we can not do that then atleast we can start with being tolerant to other denominations.

Tolerance, openness and understanding towards other peoples' cultures, social structures, values and faiths are now essential to the very survival of an interdependent world.

Pluralism is MUST for the growth of Islamic unity.

[Anwar]

kisike dharam ko chedo nahi, aap ke dharam ko choro nahi.

[JC]

Khozema,

AGREED

Anwar,

You have partial solutions. Why do you want to stick to your Dharam by default and why you choose not to understand others. You are closing the door of Learning!