Bandra Jamaat

[RAAZ]

With Doa Mubarak of Aqa Mola (TUS) I would like to bring few things in notice of Bandra people and to people who claim themselves responsible.

First this year in Ramazaan a bhaisaheb had came from head office name Saifuddin bhaisaheb who had been send for our betterment but he was there to make money and his name. With him there were two assistant who could black mail and put his term in front of the jamaat. The two assistant started demanding money in form of so called NAJWA FOR BHAISAHEB AND FOR THEMSELVES for bhaisaheb 1.75 lakh and for them 35 thousand each. Then to gain the power he set up a new committee in front of jamaat these people come and talk big but by deeds are very small. Our Amil saheb is a nut case who doesn’t know and cannot understand anything and our jamaat people themselves our involved in scandals so they cannot speak much.

Second thing our jamaat s Redevelopment program in which our jamaat is made a scapegoat by Shazada Aliasgerbhai Saheb just to promote his people he is putting the whole jamaat in a big burden on the jamaat. Still the permission are not clear and jamaat told him no for foundation but still he insisted and came and unneeded expense of 1 lakh was forced on jamaat. So just to get money they can go to any level and use their power and there are few bunch of fools in our jamaat who on the peoples money like to take full credit and waste the common men’s hard earn money.

When we already have a jamaatkhana and office n residence for an Amil then why to waste people s money and put jamaat in a debt and regarding the buildings condition we people who live there know s better than anyone else so please leave us alone because at the end of the day we have to put more bills n bear all the consequence. Today Santacruz And Marol both the Jamaats are in debts due to Shz Aliasgerbhaisaheb they should go and thanks him for this great work Shz saheb pls don’t interefere in our jamaat or it will not be good for you and your Amil who is threatening us on your behalf.

From more than a century we have our own Masjid and jamatkhana which was left behind by four fathers so we people of Bandra have this facility not now but from last so many year. And in all suburb’s Bandra was doing all the Niyaz from last forty years and more so please don’t teach us and leave us on our own we can decide for our children better than you corrupt people.

So I request all the people of Bandra to wake up and see what is happening around them before its too late.

By Doa Mubarak of Aqa Mola (TUS) I HOPE EVERYTHING GET FINE AND THE FOOLS SHOULD UNDESTAND AFTER THIS MESSAGE AND SHOULD NOT MESS WITH PEOPLE OF BANDRA IN FUTURE ALSO.MAY ALLAH GRANT OUR MOLA HEALTHY AND A LONG LIVE TILL QAYAMAAT!AMEEN

[pro_pig]

my friend raaz u need to correct mistake not four father it should be forefather.

[Anwar]

pro-pig, did you find only 1(one) mistake? Are you an english teacher,than you are a lousy one. Probably you are a gora angrejwalla?
Question for RAAZ, why do you let these idiot parasites rule you life? You go on to say," Our Amil saheb is a nut case who doesn’t know and cannot understand anything and our jamaat people themselves our involved in scandals so they cannot speak much." Are not members of you jamaat man enough to throw these type of scums out?

[observer]

Raaz

The quagmire we are in is becauae of peoeple like you in our community. How can someone force you to do anything. Tell the Amil to F... O.... and you will see. My friend we will be slaves forever till we find our balls.

[pro_pig]

anwar, i am not a teacher but i was helping raaz out y dont u mine your own busniess instead wondering about jamaat and amil.which jamaat u go to.

[practical]

If this is a same Ishaqbhai Saheb (He is from Bait-E-Jaini)? Then you will have to be alert. This Amil has mess up all things at Rajkot and one court case is on him for not allowing to dafan in our kabarastan. He was shacked from Coimbatore for putting hurdles in performing a Nikha of one Coimbatorian at Hyderabad. There was a big revolt by Coimbatore bohars and a police was called for protection of this Amil and jamat members. As you have called him a NUT he deserves this pet name. This man was kept with out portfolio for some months and then after he was appointed as a amil of Bandra.

[tahir]

pro_dai,
that should be "mind" and not "mine"...

[tahir]

pro_dai
Since I have decided to help you out, here is another one - "busines" not "busniess". Two misspells in a single line! Its good that you have decided to post just one line at a time.

[pro_pig]

tahir i did it bec of u that u learn that all i am happy that u figure it out good.

[Anwar]

This pro_pig at least has the guts to take an appropriate name, beeing, pro kothari, pro_pig is a perfect name
I have stopped going to any jamaat, have had enough of them. All these amils, sheikhs, mullas in the jamaat,just want to have a controll over your everyday life. Majority of these amils, mullas, sheikhs etc have not done nothing for the general society to get/earn any respect, so the only way they get respect, I mean demand is by buying all these fancy titles. Then all the other less fortunate bohris below them have to respect them, kiss their hands and god knows what more,and they feel important. Just read RAAZ´s post, inspite of members knowing that there is wrong doings, they keep on going to jamaat and paying all these fancy dues. WHY??? Cos they got no balls, sorry to say this, but its a reallity

[accountability]

with so much going on, corruption so rampant, i do not understand why are we still not awakened, why should we suffer, why should bohras pay for amils and alikes, what good is the religion, if it exploits, manipulates, is cruel, with no heart. and what religion is this. you dont have money, you die but cannot be buried in our kabrastan, you dont have money, your children cannot get married, you dont have money, you cannot pray in our masjids, i appeal to syedna saheb, please as you say that you love them so much, and much more, come to their rescue, free them from shahzada's and their cronies exploitation. syedna saheb please free them, guide them to real religion, the religion of humanity, the religion of compassion, the religion of justice and the religion of god.

[observer]

Another one hoping that syedna will come to the rescue. My friend smell the coffee. A money grab is going on. It has nothing to do with religion. YOU have to do something not syedna. SAY NO. Do not part with your money. What are we scared of? I know: mishaq, weddings and death. If that is why you are in this religion for then it is not a religion. It is slavery. We are slaves. No wonder some have accepted the reality and are calling themselves Abde Whaterever.

[pro_pig]

anwar, u know y my login is pro_pig its means progressive r pigs like and ass hole all they do bitches about aqa maula and our community. leaves us alone for the god sake y dont u guys mind your own busniess r u guys jealous, the way we r living and our beloved aqa maula is with us that we dont have to worry, he is our whole and soul, he is our father, buy the way do u have in your community any body that u can call him father and he can call u a son, i dont think so not even for second, all u guys just bitches and jealous.

[Fatwa Banker]

do u have in your community any body that u can call him father and he can call u a son,

Not sure about you buddy boy, but the rest of us have or had a father we can identify.

PS: Where did you learn to butcher the English language like this ?

[scared]

he probably heard one too many Bush speeches.

[pro_pig]

fatwa banker dude i learn this lang frm your web site thats all u guys do in this web site bitch all other

[Anwar]

the kothari pro_ pig writes "buy the way do u have in your community any body that u can call him father and he can call u a son, i dont think so not even for second"
Firstly I dont have to "BUY my way" for someone to call a father,
Secondly , yes I do have ONE, in my community, whom I can call a FATHER and who calls me SON. Unfortunately he is no more.Don´t for gods sake, I mean moulas sake, tell your mom about this father at least not infront of another whom you mom thinks is your father, or there will be too many complications. Ofcourse, you never know, this can turn out to be a wonderfull soap opera for the TV.

[jamanpasand]

the kothari pro_ pig writes

You can either be a Kothari or Pro-pig.

What is this Kothari pro-pig ???? Is this a new breed coming from Kothari mother and a pro-pig father. Sexy match!!!!

[Fatwa Banker]

he probably heard one too many Bush speeches

Mr. Pig shouldn't misunderestimate the strategery of Bush's diction.

[pro_pig]

no dear jamanparsad pro_pig is coming frm progressive dawoodi bohra frm ass hole sound good jamanparsad ask your mom where u came frm and who is your real daddy.

[Fatwa Banker]

Pig,

If Syedna is your Daddy then we should be calling you Shahzada, no ?

[jamanpasand]

Dear pro-pig

Think it over. You simply cannot have more than one father even if more than one is involved in the process.

[anajmi]

Admin,

I would recommend that you close this thread.

[accountability]

admin i agree with anajmi, it is distraction, a very stupid mischief by those, who just want to distract from every subject. like pro-pig etc.

[Anwar]

We should refrain from using abusing language.
One of the pillars of democracy is to accept and respect other´s view.You can always reply without hurting opposition without using abusive language. Has anybody ever read any post by some of our leading members,like Dr. Engineer,(inspite of beeing called all these names) Br. Insaaf, etc,using bad or abusive language?
It is specially important for progressives not to use abusive language, specially against moulana.
If you get angry, take a deep breath, take some time before replying .ANGRY PEOPLE CANNOT THINK LOGICALLY.

[Admin]

We'll close this topic it there's any more pointless chatter.

[Average Bohra]

Admin,

If pointless chatter is the new threshold for closing topics, we won't have any topics left open.

I suggest that those requesting specific topics be closed cease participating in them, and those that request that certain members be blocked stop responding to ther posts. Often, those making these requests will not pass any decenecy standards either.

The rest of us are accustomed to ignoring the BS.

[pro_pig]

peace guys

[S. Insaf]

Mass Revolt in Rajkot against Manifold Increase in Sabil
According to a Gujarati Daily, Rajkot Bhasker there was a mass revolt against the local Dawoodi Bohra Jamat, Anjuman-e-Hatimi which has imposed a manifold increased Sabil on the Bohras this Ramdan. The practice of collecting money in the name of Sabil is introduced since 1962. This Sabil is collected in the name of management and maintenance of Bohra mosques and dargahs. And people have giving Sabil for this noble purpose. But ever since Akber Bharmal has become the secretary of the Anjuma-e-Hatimi he is alleged to use the amount of Sabil, Wajebat and Qarze-Hasnat for his personal benefit.
Earlier there used be a fixed amount of Rs. 84 per family minimum and Rs. 324 per family maximum. There are 1940 Bohra families in Rajkot and they were divided in A, B,C and D categories according to their financial status.
The torch-bearers of mass revolt, Babubhai Vohra, Mansoor Kapasi, Hashim Lotia, Shabbir Lokhandwala, Najmi Cablewala, Husainbhai Mankad, Shoebbhai Jodiyawala and Turabbhai have blamed that the Anjuman-e-Hatimi has increased the Sabil amount many fold (minimum Rs. 324 and maximum Rs. 5200) and it has been imposed on individuals and also on the business establishment and earlier A, B, C, and D categories are totally neglected. They have said they will not tolerate the high-handedness of Akber Bharmal and other 15 members of the Amjuman who have amassed enough wealth and are living in luxury. They have decided to take up the matter to Human Rights Commissions and Charity Commissioner
Revolt against Burhanpur's Amil
Let's follow the example of Burhanpur's mumineen.
The frustrated but fearless Bohras of Burhanpur have openly defied the Amil's dictates. As per the instructions of Vazrat in Mumbai every Amil keeps Bohras engaged in lengthy vaiz, matam and wajebat collections. Amils are trained and instructed to hold vaiz and matam on every sad and happy occasion. Amils now do vaiz after prayers even during Ramadan.
This year during Ramadan Amil of Burhanpur city started doing long and monotonous vaiz and matam after magrib namaz. Though the Amil was warned in the beginning itself by a Jamat member, Janab Sarvari saheb not to make long vaiz, which becomes unbearable for fasting Bohras, especially women and children. But Amil did not heed the warning and continued his long vaiz. Many fasting and hungry Bohras got frustrated and left the mosque and gathered outside waiting Sehri jaman. The stubborn and arrogant Amil closed the doors of the mosque and announced that only those Bohras who are inside the mosque would be served sehri jaman. And those who are outside would not be allowed to participate in the sehri jaman. The Bohras got angry. They had heated-arguments with Amil and everyone present there were served seri jaman defying Amil's dictates. Next day again Amil closed the door and said those inside the mosque would be served before and those who are outside would be served thereafter. This further antagonized the Bohras and they bashed the Amil thoroughly ultimately compelling Amil to open the doors' of mosque.
Then Amil dictated one more term that thaal should be given only when there are 8 Bohras men and 7 Bohra women. This was quite inconvenient to the Bohra ladies sitting seven of them with their children around the thaal. Whereas Amil used eat just four more Bohras in his thaal. One Jamaat member, Shabbir Husain Matka had heated arguments with the Amil on this issue too.
Any way it is appreciable that now Bohras realized the true colour of Amil and they are enough courage to defy their dictates.

[tahir]

Admin,
I commend you for the strict moderation, without which this forum would become BS in true sense. I suggest those who think every topic is a pointless chatter should stop gracing this board with their visits. Often those alleging "banal talk" are the ones who are laden with agendas and do not have anything substantial to contribute.