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MF, you are from gujrat, what do you think about the current situation. Is any way muslims themselves are responsible for their miseries. Or their lack of unity and education.

I was talking to a congress activist, he is 2nd level leader, he told me that muslims first supported bjp against congress.

[Muslim First]

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Br. AC

I am from Guj., but about 40 years removed from day to day. I do keep myself informed.

Is any way muslims themselves are responsible for their miseries. Or their lack of unity and education.

Both plus hart core resentment of Muslims by Hindus.

Lack of education: Muslims living in Mahollas have no role models. If they have money they would rather build mosque then 3 room school house. I was in Baroda recently and they are building and collecting money to build a new mosque less than 1000 feet from exists. one. When I asked why the answer was that it gets too crowded on Fridays. Here they build mosques which are used by 15 to 20 persons 5 times a day. may be 200 persons on Jumma. Rest of time they are empty or 2 or 3 people are sleeping in it or Tabligee Jamat is visiting and using it as Motel. I hope they use it to teach other stuff like reading, preparing kids for jobs etc. etc.

Same criticism for spending 1 Crore by Bohras. How many classrooms it would have built for Bohras first and Muslim second?

Muslims in Gujarat do not wand handout they want helping hand and guidance.

I have seen deep rooted hatred of Muslims in Gujubhais. As one of 3 Muslim boys out of engineering class of 200, I was used to be called 'Bandiya' by my Hindu friends. Do not forget Morarji Desai. I have heard first hand accounts of horror in Kalol and Godhra during partition from my Father.

Muslim of Gujarat are trying to cope with their situation and benign neglect by state and central Gov. Why are Godhra investigation not complete? If Muslims were culpable then report would have been out in 1 year! Truth is that they did not burn the train and nobody is willing to say it.

Please do not go on 'Wahabi' track.

Wasalaam
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it makes me sad, that after the supreme court judgment, and all this high level inquiries, it got no where. Modi may have his way this time again. All exit polls show, that he will retain the government, though by a thin majority, but enough to hang on to power.

You are right about mosque building, the problem with us muslims is that we are selfish just about everything.

[Gursevak]

When I asked why the answer was that it gets too crowded on Fridays. Here they build mosques which are used by 15 to 20 persons 5 times a day. may be 200 persons on Jumma.

very religious community. rest of the time are they training for jihad?

I have seen deep rooted hatred of Muslims in Gujubhais.

does anybody love muslims

Muslims in Gujarat do not wand handout they want helping hand and guidance.

even if the hand is not muslim and the guidance is not from the quran?

I have heard first hand accounts of horror in Kalol and Godhra during partition from my Father.

was your father unbiased in telling you - did he tell you what muslims did to hindu and sikh women

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My friend sevak: Gandhiji very truly said,"an eye for an eye will render half the world blind".

none of us would like to live among so many blinds,or moreso become blind. Everyone of us should acknowledge other's right to live. Bhagwan being so powerful, had not wished muslims, there would be no muslim. Allah being almighty, had not wished hindus, there would be no hindu. But I think, Allah and Bhagwan both want humanity first. If allah and bhagwan can tolerate, muslims, hindus, christians, jews and what not, then why can't we.

[Gursevak]

brothers

read my earlier posts - i was always commenting on the similarity between all faiths. i read how certain sects were being ridiculed here with impunity and i wanted to see what would happen if a non-muslim were to post unsympathetic material. i got my answer from admin in another post. Your Prophet preached tolerance the intro to one of the boards also talks tolerance of views but in practice it appears to be that you have to adopt a muslim id like dawood to be granted tolerance.

apologies to all - i had a hunch that the webmaster was not only anti trads but anti shia in totality and i got my answer.

jio aur auroko jineh do

[Admin]

i wanted to see what would happen if a non-muslim were to post unsympathetic material. i got my answer from admin in another post.[/QB]

You're being dishonest when you say your views are not being tolerated. All we are objecting to is your relentless anti-muslim one-liners that have no substance. You can post as much "unsympathetic material" as you want but please back it up with facts and context otherwise it amount nothing more than childish nonsense. We can and do tolerate it for a while but there has to be a limit.

Thank you for contributions on this board. But please be responsible.

[anajmi]

Gud,

I think the you are pissing the Admin off. I would take care, otherwise we will tie your pagdi on your neck and hang you out to dry.

[pardesi]

Originally posted by anajmi:
Gud,

I think the you are pissing the Admin off. I would take care, otherwise we will tie your pagdi on your neck and hang you out to dry.

Sevak ji,

You see we can make as much fun of you as we want but you can not poke fun at us. We are muslims and therefore we are better than you. We will make fun of your pagri which may have some religious symbolism to you but we do not care and you can not write about Quran, Allah, Mohammad, Islam, muslims etc. We are too sensitive.

Got my point?

Stick around. No need to get upset. These things happen.

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Anajmi: this is the problem, instead of answering him point by point, you chose to....

Now If I may sevakji:

very religious community. rest of the time are they training for jihad?

There are around 200 millions muslims, not a single one is accused of any terrorist related act. I am not talking about gangsterism.

does anybody love muslims

A very superficial quotation, Akbar e azam was adored by his hindu wife maharani Jodha bai.

even if the hand is not muslim and the guidance is not from the quran?

Not only mulsims, but lot of hindus (specially from shcedule cast) do need a helping hand and guidance, may it not be from quran or geeta.

was your father unbiased in telling you - did he tell you what muslims did to hindu and sikh women

can you specifically give an example, place and date. Historically muslims are never accused of mass rape or murder. Aurangzeb is accused of forced conversion, not of mass raping or murder.

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":There are around 200 millions muslims"

please read "There are around 200 millions muslims in india",

[Gursevak]

paion de peno

i did not make up any oneliners - all the material i posted was copy and paste, lot of what i posted was from the article that muslim first provided link to.

are u sure there are 200 million muslims in india - i am always told that the figure is around 140 million which is why indonesia has highest muslim population.

i will not go into the troubles of the partition but any suggestion that muslims were purely victims is denying the truth, crimes were comitted on both sides.

and anajmi needs serious help - u all know it. shame none of u know his real id otherwise you could organise local imam to help hospitalise him.

sab ka malik ek - ishwar allah tero naam.

[turbocanuck]

Originally posted by Gursevak:


"Anajmi needs serious help - u all know it. shame none of u know his real id otherwise you could organise local imam to help hospitalise him."

sab ka malik ek - ishwar allah tero naam.

Sat Sri Akaal Paaji,
Tusi jab sach baat karde hon, toh bas waddi baat karde hon. Par tusi bhul ja, inonki koi dawa shawa nahi. Yeh to science se bhi gaya guzra haiji. Inoda nuska to bas Rabb de pas hi haiji.

"sab ka malik eik, Eeshwar-Allah tero naam"

[haseebsiddique]

Originally posted by Admin:

You're being dishonest when you say your views are not being tolerated. All we are objecting to is your relentless anti-muslim one-liners that have no substance.

This say it all gursevak,,,,
Too much is often not tolerated.

[Gursevak]

lal masjidya

as u have now taken up the mantle - puttar look up the meaning before responding - from ur chacha then does not "Too much is often not tolerated" apply to religion as well. 5 times a day etc etc subha sham tilawaat etc etc shahed allah bhi tolerate nahi karta?