History Repeats Itself

[Being_Bohra]

Some years from now, few brave people from our community voiced their opinions on the wrong practices and atrocities (few in number as compared to the present day) of the Kothar . They risked getting ex-communicated from the community. One can blame it on the lack of unity that could not yield the required results from the reformist movement of that time. But, in no way can one say it was entirely futile.

Bohris are once again in the news, but for all the wrong reasons this time. It will not be an understatement to state that every Bohri household is undergoing a "Dai" crisis in the true sense of the word. Blame it on the circumstances or Devine intervention.

Reforms have never been needed as desperately as they are needed now. The crisis could have been averted IF the issues were nipped in the bud long time back. The crisis is explicit now. Before it grows to a monstrous proportion and eats each one of us. Let’s act for what’s in our capacity. Let’s put our foot down. Let’s tell them enough is enough.

[M Taha]

what solution do u suggest?

[james]

Some years from now, few brave people from our community voiced their opinions on the wrong practices and atrocities (few in number as compared to the present day) of the Kothar . They risked getting ex-communicated from the community. One can blame it on the lack of unity that could not yield the required results from the reformist movement of that time. But, in no way can one say it was entirely futile.

Bohris are once again in the news, but for all the wrong reasons this time. It will not be an understatement to state that every Bohri household is undergoing a "Dai" crisis in the true sense of the word. Blame it on the circumstances or Devine intervention.

Reforms have never been needed as desperately as they are needed now. The crisis could have been averted IF the issues were nipped in the bud long time back. The crisis is explicit now. Before it grows to a monstrous proportion and eats each one of us. Let’s act for what’s in our capacity. Let’s put our foot down. Let’s tell them enough is enough.

It is preposterousness to suggest that if the unreasonable demands of Reformists were adhered to , Khuzaima wouldn't claim Daiship for himself.

[M Taha]

Some years from now, few brave people from our community voiced their opinions on the wrong practices and atrocities (few in number as compared to the present day) of the Kothar . They risked getting ex-communicated from the community. One can blame it on the lack of unity that could not yield the required results from the reformist movement of that time. But, in no way can one say it was entirely futile.

Bohris are once again in the news, but for all the wrong reasons this time. It will not be an understatement to state that every Bohri household is undergoing a "Dai" crisis in the true sense of the word. Blame it on the circumstances or Devine intervention.

Reforms have never been needed as desperately as they are needed now. The crisis could have been averted IF the issues were nipped in the bud long time back. The crisis is explicit now. Before it grows to a monstrous proportion and eats each one of us. Let’s act for what’s in our capacity. Let’s put our foot down. Let’s tell them enough is enough.

It is preposterousness to suggest that if the unreasonable demands of Reformists were adhered to , Khuzaima wouldn't claim Daiship for himself.

SMB failed to realize in 50 years that his right hand mazoon sahab is traitor and he will claim daiship?

ghaib nu ilm didnt worked?

and plese dont bring Ali and abu bakar story because there is no comparison between Ali and MB.

Ali lived life for people, and MB killed people dig their graves for him self, botcotted hundereds and destroyed their life by keeping them away from their childrens and wives.

so bring some thing new.

[james]

It is preposterousness to suggest that if the unreasonable demands of Reformists were adhered to , Khuzaima wouldn't claim Daiship for himself.

SMB failed to realize in 50 years that his right hand mazoon sahab is traitor and he will claim daiship?

ghaib nu ilm didnt worked?

Off Topic post. I will reply all the same.

Case in point : Era of Rasullah SAW . Comprende ?

[M Taha]

I already knew your parotic reply, but it wont work now so think some thing innovative this time.

btw even the most idiot abde would not let repeat the bad history and he will try to find solution, and make things clearer to people.

[james]

I already knew your parotic reply,

Are you claiming to having knowledge of the unknown ( gaib ilm ) ? Do we have a new daawedar in our midst ?

[james]

M Taha


What is your personal opinion of Abu Bakr , Umar and Usman ?

[M Taha]

I already knew your parotic reply,

Are you claiming to having knowledge of the unknown ( gaib ilm ) ? Do we have a new daawedar in our midst ?

nope no claim to gaib for me, but I know how the mind set of abde works, this is just because of good observation, and you didnt put me down.

[M Taha]

M Taha


What is your personal opinion of Abu Bakr , Umar and Usman ?

they were much better then present leadership of dawoodi bohras.

they gave blood for islaam and fought many wars, while your ayyash leader is sucking blood of people for their ayyashi.

[james]

M Taha it is very dishonest of you to edit your posts after they have been replied to. Please desist from such behavior in the future.

[M Taha]

M Taha it is very dishonest of you to edit your posts after they have been replied to. Please desist from such behavior in the future.

you are a typical abde arent you? when u fail to reply you blame and bring silly excuses?

any ways late here, I will let GM/anajmi kick your butts. cya

[james]

plese dont bring Ali and abu bakar story

What story is this ?

MB killed people dig their graves for him self

What ? Are you out of your mind ?

[james]

M Taha


What is your personal opinion of Abu Bakr , Umar and Usman ?

they were much better then present leadership of dawoodi bohras.

they gave blood for islaam and fought many wars, while your ayyash leader is sucking blood of people for their ayyashi.

Are you saying Abu Bakr was the rightful caliph after Rasullah SAW ?

[M Taha]

Read this

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8582

and see the pictures for your self

On 20 December 1928 the dead body of is Seth Ali bhai Sir Adamji Peerbhoy’s wife late Amtullah Bai was dug out from the grave by Mullaji’s followers and thrown out on the road outside. By their act they terrorized the community.

[Being_Bohra]

@James

Is your alias "Dai" approved?

[Akhtiar Wahid]

James A.K.A disguised Maxthemature, please ur so blind that you can not even see your private parts on your body, stop commenting and better go treat your self because you are so deep in the sludge of human waste, that you cannot realize wtf you are talking abouit, wash your face, and see the reality instead of sitting on couch and doing ga ga like a baby......

[james]

Read this

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8582

and see the pictures for your self

On 20 December 1928 the dead body of is Seth Ali bhai Sir Adamji Peerbhoy’s wife late Amtullah Bai was dug out from the grave by Mullaji’s followers and thrown out on the road outside. By their act they terrorized the community.

Meh. The Newspaper article is vague when it states " Mullaji's followers " instead of naming and shaming the culprits.

Or could it be because the journalist was so lazy that he didn't find it important to investigate and just admitted hearsay in his article ?

By the way , I condemn the unknown nameless perpetrators of this heinous crime .

Is the article all that you have to offer ? If yes then, you have shot yourself in the foot ,

[james]

James A.K.A disguised Maxthemature, please ur so blind that you can not even see your private parts on your body, stop commenting and better go treat your self because you are so deep in the sludge of human waste, that you cannot realize wtf you are talking abouit, wash your face, and see the reality instead of sitting on couch and doing ga ga like a baby......

You're .

[shehzada]

so more current news -

http://www.punemirror.in/article/2/2014 ... reats.html

[scared]

Meh. The Newspaper article is vague when it states " Mullaji's followers " instead of naming and shaming the culprits.

Well, mob's normally do not have specific names. Just the group they belong to. And as long as the group is identified, every one who is a part of that group is a culprit. This is similar to how we refer to people on this board as "Wahhabi murderers" even though they themselves probably haven't murdered anyone. So, if you consider yourself to be a follower of "Mullaji", then you are a culprit.

Is the article all that you have to offer ? If yes then, you have shot yourself in the foot ,

Well, the article didn't come out of thin air did it? So someone who is actually offering the article, is offering the effort that went into publishing that article. There was someone who went and did the research and a reputed newspaper chose to publish it because it decided that there was some truth behind it. "Mullaji's followers" are quick to dismiss things that display their crimes against humans and humanity. Those that still have a dirty brain (one that hasn't been washed that is. ) at least know when and who needs to be questioned.

[JC]

Let me post an honest question to Abdes ....... HOW MUCH you 'know' of Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman?? AND if you know 'what' is the SOURCE?? How much 'independent research' and studies have you all done??

If you have lived in a well all your life do not claim there is no ocean out there ..........

And as Bro Taha has siad, please DO NOT bring in Prophet and his Caliphs in this ........... the 'claim' on Daiship is a 'TOTAL' worldy issue ........ and is between mortals (one is at his least human levels) with nothing divine, only Power and Money ......

[zinger]

M Taha it is very dishonest of you to edit your posts after they have been replied to. Please desist from such behavior in the future.

James, thats not the only thing that he is famous for.

Among others, he has atleast 20 ids to his credit here.

in each of the ids, he has been banned by Admin and hence has to create a new id every time

[james]

M Taha it is very dishonest of you to edit your posts after they have been replied to. Please desist from such behavior in the future.

James, thats not the only thing that he is famous for.

Among others, he has atleast 20 ids to his credit here.

in each of the ids, he has been banned by Admin and hence has to create a new id every time

If you are right , that makes him a celebrity over here.

I hope he is employed and is not sponging benefits off Australian Government.

[james]

Let me post an honest question to Abdes ....... HOW MUCH you 'know' of Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman?? AND if you know 'what' is the SOURCE?? How much 'independent research' and studies have you all done??

If you have lived in a well all your life do not claim there is no ocean out there ..........

And as Bro Taha has siad, please DO NOT bring in Prophet and his Caliphs in this ........... the 'claim' on Daiship is a 'TOTAL' worldy issue ........ and is between mortals (one is at his least human levels) with nothing divine, only Power and Money ......

Source is the honorable itrat of Prophet SAW also referred to as the Noble Ahle Bait .

If anything , the caliphs usurped for worldly issues.You have got your history twisted . Time for you to research again honestly.

[james]

Meh. The Newspaper article is vague when it states " Mullaji's followers " instead of naming and shaming the culprits.

Well, mob's normally do not have specific names. Just the group they belong to. And as long as the group is identified, every one who is a part of that group is a culprit. This is similar to how we refer to people on this board as "Wahhabi murderers" even though they themselves probably haven't murdered anyone. So, if you consider yourself to be a follower of "Mullaji", then you are a culprit.

And who identified the group in the first place ? Eyewitnesses right ? Or were there none ? There are hundreds of questions arising . Were the Police called ? Was the mob ever indicted by any court or law ? What is the follow up to this half researched article ?

Regarding your laughable opinion that people of same group are culprits , you should be thrown in jail by the Indian Government for talibani activities if you identify yourself as a Muslim. Let me know if you call yourself Sikh-Christian-Hindu-Indian-American-Pakistani-Arab , I have scores to incidents to highlight that would make you rot in jail by your admission.


If you ever presented this case in any court of law in the entire world and Shariat compliant ones as well , it would be thrown back at your face and you would become the butt of many jokes.

[M Taha]

James, thats not the only thing that he is famous for.

Among others, he has atleast 20 ids to his credit here.

in each of the ids, he has been banned by Admin and hence has to create a new id every time

If you are right , that makes him a celebrity over here.

I hope he is employed and is not sponging benefits off Australian Government.

thats kothar job to live off on money of bewa and yatim not mine.....seriously james dont you feel shame at all to openly support grave diggers and people whose hands are filled with blood of people?

for once in a life stop free loading on kothar shoulder and think independently.

I understand you are employed by kothar but atleast when it comes to accepting truth look at haq and not money.

even RSS and bajrangdal some times accepts their fault and talks truth, at least learn from them?

and if it is all about money let me know I will support your family if you really dont have choice but to lick kothar shoes for money.my driver is going on leave, send me your biodata, I can atleast provide you job which has dignity and far better then licking shoes of kothari mafia.

at least you will know what is taste of roti earn from mehnat ki kamai....haraam kaa kha kha ke tumhara zaykaa bigad gaya hain.

[M Taha]

Well, mob's normally do not have specific names. Just the group they belong to. And as long as the group is identified, every one who is a part of that group is a culprit. This is similar to how we refer to people on this board as "Wahhabi murderers" even though they themselves probably haven't murdered anyone. So, if you consider yourself to be a follower of "Mullaji", then you are a culprit.

And who identified the group in the first place ? Eyewitnesses right ? Or were there none ? There are hundreds of questions arising . Were the Police called ? Was the mob ever indicted by any court or law ? What is the follow up to this half researched article ?

Regarding your laughable opinion that people of same group are culprits , you should be thrown in jail by the Indian Government for talibani activities if you identify yourself as a Muslim. Let me know if you call yourself Sikh-Christian-Hindu-Indian-American-Pakistani-Arab , I have scores to incidents to highlight that would make you rot in jail by your admission.


If you ever presented this case in any court of law in the entire world and Shariat compliant ones as well , it would be thrown back at your face and you would become the butt of many jokes.

hey James,

tell me who identified the mob who burnt house of bibi fatema?

was there any FIR or police case of that incident?

how many people witnessed that incident?

was there any case in court of law againt them?

why do you sound like a drunked a** h****?

[james]

It seems I have hit a raw nerve.

All the more reason to believe you are at the mercy of Australian Government to provide you with scraps .

Leaking shoes is seriously funny.

[james]

hey James,

tell me who identified the mob who burnt house of bibi fatema?

was there any FIR or police case of that incident?

how many people witnessed that incident?

was there any case in court of law againt them?

why do you sound like a drunked a** h****?

Aren't you the same chap who begged not to compare events from this era with the era of Panjatan AS on this very thread ?

It is becoming fun to expose your hypocrisy every now and then , though I easily get bored .