Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Smart wrote:^ one can imagine what changes can happen in more than 1400 years.

Why not believe that the Koran was changed over the 1400 odd years ?

^ You won't understand the fine distinction. Keep on heckling. Come on this is your chance to showcase your beliefs on a world stage.Don't be a coward. :lol: Why don't you teach more than 4 billion odd people that Prophet is not a myth and there really was a correspondence from Allah to Mohammed ( ...

A Non Bohra but a Muslim may always claim that Imam As is a figment of imagination.No worries if they think that way.

But it be tad hypocritical on their part if at the same time they believe in Angel Gibrael and Iblis and so forth.

This thread is the perfect example of why people shouldn't debate ' Religion ' as it all depends on ' Faith ' and ' Belief ' , Boom is defeated in my opinion as the other party has chucked out one simple gem that the Prophet wanted the Islamic men to do so and the words of Prophet equate to the will...

Smart wrote:^
I never claimed that the Prophet and his Sahabas are myths.

What makes you believe that the Prophet is indeed not a ' MYTH ' ?

Smart wrote:^
Please don't words in my mouth.

What are you trying to say here ?

^ You can call me all the names you can, but can you refute my logic of not only you, but all abdes being sub human? Got your goat? Cool down buddy. The problem is not going away even if you hide your head in the sand. Lets put things into perspective here , Slave of Syedna equates to Slave of Moha...

rania wrote, You seem like a conjoined twin of Smart. Seeing your lack of intelligence , you may actually this as a compliment ! :mrgreen: Thrashing out left and right and calling people names does not make you right. But, you can't help it. It is the culture your masters have been promoting. a civ...

rania, for a new brat on the block you think that by talking tough you are going to scare us??? whatever i wrote, i stand by it. please also read the thread by saeed al khair where he has detailed all the crimes of both the 51st and 52nd syednas. you are the one who thought that by mentioning words...

guy_sam wrote, why cateogorising all abde's....every person varies,,,, Normal human being are all individuals, each one is unique and can't be categorised, however this principle does not apply to sub humans. Please don't get angry at me as it is the abdes who call themselves as slaves of another h...

Okay, so the west and specially America is at fault. But does that now mean we support terrorism? What about terror attacks in countries like India? You guys have carefully listed the negative side of the western coin. But what about Fatwa Banker's comment on West always coming to aid whenever ther...

there is a simple truth.. yesterday's terrorist, is tomorrow's freedom fighter hero. what does it take to bring about this change? all it takes is to win your fight..then you can wear your cloak of respectability and the world will forget your past sins. most of the turmoil and attacks on muslim co...

rania aka hades aka danish, I'm going to take oz's advise and shut up. I guess its better for us all. I can't beat you in a debate if you have anajmi on your team anyway. This is the second time you have started with the bullshit of aka hades aka danish ! Remember I addressed you with ' Sidekick ' ...

The more people like anajmi and rania we have we will get issues like discrimination and suspicion towards immigrants. Such attitudes thanks fully so far only a few die hard dis-loyalt to nations they live in is a reason why majority liberal Muslims in West or India suffer being profiled. Their act...

I can only laugh the way you think and compare the military spending of countries without considering their GDP. Fatwa Banker has already given you a fitting reply. It should only take you a search engine like google and a few news websites to find out that people are actually starving in North Kor...

Regarding the kids being taught hatred for the western world , you have forgotten these kids are the ones who have lost their fathers , mothers and other relatives because of greed for oil. So according to you it is okay to teach kids hatred so they turn into terrorists? A friend of mine lost both ...

Do not use treatment of women as an excuse for waging war and killing scores of innocents.UK has the highest rate of Teenage Pregnancies.Naive people like you may feel this is a good motive to attack UK to liberate the women there. I hope you are well updated on the sexual assault figures in USA.Sh...

Which women are you talking about ? The ones that were gassed ( Kurds ) by Saddam who was supplied chemical weapons by USA and UK ? I'm talking about the general women of Islam who would be already suffering by being one of the four wives of one man or by being a mother of 10 kids. If you think war...

If most people had your kind of thinking we would still be living under the Roman Empire or the British Empire. Thank God we are not. There are people out there who still value their freedoms more than their lives. If people think that living under Saddam was better than living under a puppet Ameri...

And you have spoken to majority of the people in all the muslim countries? Do you know the conditions that the Iraqis have been living under since the first gulf war under American sanctions? Do you know how many children died because of the sanctions and do you know what the then secretary of stat...

Rania, You are a America hater and that is your prerogative, as long as you don't try to hide behind the "just the foreign policy" bullshit. As long as you are posting numbers, the US military spending is approximate 4% of GDP, and if your North Korean numbers are accurate then they are s...

Prof I will chip in ..Bohra cult will not die but its arrogance and credibility will diminish with time such that it is irrelevant to the destiny of its members and as such we will watch in amusement the Abde rituals. It started this crazy oppressive destructive of all tolerances and moderations si...

this guy is so full of venom against duat i am sure he is hatefull to even islaam, any ways lots of crap and lies in artical makes it dump in recycle bin lol this article does not become lies and crap because of your utterances. who are you? just an insignificant abde khaal donor, a single-celled a...

And I think you are open to a lawsuit of slander and libel in event of someone taking out the time and effort to say this baseless accusations are too much and would decide not to let you get away with it. dont think. no use pondering and speculating. let that someone be you to take the time and ef...

5. It is no big secret that there is no transparency in our accounts. No balance sheet or account is published for the local bohra to be informed as to where the wajebat money and other donations are being spent. Dispute it if you dare but in your heart you know that is the way it is. Your last sen...

^ Instead of laughing it off and ridiculing it, why not take some effort and counter it. Maybe, that requires intellectual depth. I do not know which world you live in , but on Planet Earth if you are making accusations they should be followed by Proof and Factual Evidence.Hearsay is laughed off in...

rania , Being devout muslims does not mean you are supposed to hate the west with a passion. The religion doesn't require people to do that. Just so we are really clear on this , please do not bring illogical comments like above to the table if you are really interested in having a debate ! I live ...

Human, So according to you, since they were not happy before, it is ok to make their condition worse than before? anajmi, Not quite. Lets take an example of North Korea as it is not invaded by the West (yet). I know its not an islamic country and you wouldn't give rats about it but still a valid ex...

Oz, good article. anajmi, so according to you people of Iraq and Afghanistan were happy before? What about the treatment of women in those countries. Women absolutely had no rights and were only as good as sex slaves and kid producing factories. Those kid would be taught hatred for the western worl...

Anajmi your attitude towards west is based on emotive hatred no amount of rationale argument is necessary anymore Credit where it is due and I do not want to come off as a bandwagon jumper , but I think anajmi is right on the money regarding his posts in this thread and other threads on the actions...