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by bensaheba
Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:03 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils
Replies: 88
Views: 8334

Re: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils

Accountability: I am sorry for calling you a double face and take back my comment, now that you explained your reasons. To all other reformists (excluding the pseudos and gawkers) Talking is done and now we shaould start action: As I see it we need the following to get started 1) An english translat...
by bensaheba
Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:08 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils
Replies: 88
Views: 8334

Re: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils

Dear Al zulfiqar, biradar, and Accountability: Keeping on the topic and not getting personal I must mention to biradar in addition to what all Al Zulfiqar has mentioned about the 2 Dais using Sunnis, shais, and Modi and Bal thakeray et al in beating up the reformist, that Syedna Qutubuddin's times w...
by bensaheba
Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:16 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils
Replies: 88
Views: 8334

Re: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils

Dear Biradar, Humsafar, Arif : Didn't we say earlier that we don't have a credible voice to speak up, if some one dares to speak up they are shunned and banned from Jamaat. In my previous post I was trying to offer a way to get a credible voice that can not be quieted by banning. I know, in the past...
by bensaheba
Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:26 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils
Replies: 88
Views: 8334

Re: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils

Dear Al Zulfiqar, Arif and S. Insaf : I wouldn't go so far as to say Dawoodi bohras are not muslims, by the definition of a muslim anyone who reads and believes in heart the kalematus Shahadat is a muslim and WE do. However, after doing that we digress immediately to teachings of this and the previo...
by bensaheba
Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Malikul Ashtar
Replies: 425
Views: 114975

Re: look at this rascal

During the recent visit of this Shahzada Malik ul Ashtar Bhaisaheb to Fremont, CA. a momin bhai in his ziafat mentioned of a dream he had to the shahzada. instead of giving him the ta'abeer (or meaning) of this strange dream the shahzada asked him to increase his vajebaat to $40,000.00 next year. Wh...
by bensaheba
Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:06 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils
Replies: 88
Views: 8334

Re: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils

Dear Al zulfiqar, Biradar and saifuddin Insaf: The title of this thread is not provocative but it is real, I had mentioned this in my earlier response to other thread that the misaq is the basis of all the atrocities committed on innocent and gullible momeneen. I have heard so many heart breaking st...
by bensaheba
Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:57 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Conceling Religious Khowledge
Replies: 22
Views: 1495

Re: Conceling Religious Khowledge

Dear Muslim First: If a 4th grader wants to know all about Differential Equations and you say that you are not mature enough in math as of now so wait, would you consider that as concealing? Similarly, in our religion the knowledge is doled out to the ones who have achieved enough basic and some hig...
by bensaheba
Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:27 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Books of dawat
Replies: 36
Views: 3261

Re: Books of dawat

Dear Mr. Porus: Salaams I think it is out of print now. I saw it a long time ago, this translation copy in Lisan e dawat was limited edition to begin with. Like you said it may not be any different than any other Urdu translation as it did not contain any tawil or tafseer. How big a collection do yo...
by bensaheba
Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:35 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Books of dawat
Replies: 36
Views: 3261

Re: Books of dawat

Dear Mr. Porus: Salaams Thank you for challenging me , that made me run to my elders to verify my statement. I am very sorry, I am wrong. The Qura'n that I held was translated by a miyasaheb with the raza of Syedna Abdul Quader Najmuddin(AQ). As it was mentioned on the first page in the begining. I ...
by bensaheba
Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:37 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Books of dawat
Replies: 36
Views: 3261

Re: Books of dawat

Dear Mr. Incredible and Mr. Aziz: Salaams It is not totally true that there is no translation of Qur'an by any Dai. I have seen a copy of Qur'an with translation(wordly translation,no tawil) in Lisan-e-dawat by Syedna Abdul Qauder Najmuddin (AQ) and it exists and is possessed by many people, unfortu...
by bensaheba
Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:13 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Jadeed Misaaq
Replies: 16
Views: 1456

Re: Jadeed Misaaq

Dear Mr. Omabharti & aqs : Salaams When a 14 year old boy and girl takes misaq, it is called navu(new) misaq. But when an older man/woman renews her misaq, it is called Jadeed. Those older than 14 years of age normally give misaq 3 times a year, so they are renewing their oath/misaq. Misaq is also g...
by bensaheba
Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:39 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: declairing sucessor
Replies: 143
Views: 8774

Re: declairing sucessor

Dear All: To put an end to all the discussion and verbal brick bat let me explain the concept of declairing a successor. The declaration of a successor is done in two ways: 1) publicly 2) privately 1) publicly is when Syedna declares in a vaez, who is going to be his successor(mansoos) or the receiv...
by bensaheba
Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:54 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Intrest in the Bohra Sect
Replies: 13
Views: 2263

Re: Intrest in the Bohra Sect

Dear Imran786: It is good to have an inquiring mind, a non-inquiring mind is a dead mind. As to your present or future questions I must say there is a lot of literature available. There is a book by Jonas Blank entitled," Mullahs on the main frame". This book is written by a christian who researched...
by bensaheba
Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:21 pm
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
Replies: 89
Views: 13642

Re: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats

Dear Incredible: Thanks for your support. I am not a tortured Zadi but I am torturing myself with grief about what is going on in the name of religion. We have far transgressed from the path of religion that was practiced by our forefathers & mothers. It seems to me that our religion has evolved in ...
by bensaheba
Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:55 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Yaum al Mab'as
Replies: 4
Views: 1160

Re: Yaum al Mab'as

Dear Admirer: Sorry to see no one responded to your query as there are a lot of intelligent people here who know a lot more than I do. But let me try. Maba'as word is derived from the word Ba'asa which means to raise or elevate. in namaaz we say Ba'asa haqqun which means Allah will raise us after we...
by bensaheba
Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:41 am
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
Replies: 89
Views: 13642

Re: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats

Dear Mr. Jamali: I don't feel the slightest offense in all you have said as I am with you 100% on all the problems within all our jamaats. I am kind to gharib momena behno and go out of my way to help them as much as I can, but being a woman my powers are limited, but financially I i help them the b...
by bensaheba
Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:52 pm
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
Replies: 89
Views: 13642

Re: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats

Dear Mr. Jamali: Welcome to the forum,I am only a couple of postings older than you here. I read your background of suffering over 3 generations at the hands of Amils and his goons. Sorry about that. I myself am a renegade bensaheba, very disgusted with what is going on in all our jamaats. If my hus...
by bensaheba
Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:37 pm
Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
Topic: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
Replies: 89
Views: 13642

Re: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats

Dear Zak: Of course the DBs are muslims, to be a muslim all you have to do is to recite the kalema tus Shahadat with your heart. and we do it in Azaan every time we pray namaaz as a minimum. For you to doubt our muslim-ness is lack of this understanding on your part. If you are a christian, hindu, m...
by bensaheba
Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:11 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: majalis of Qadhi numan
Replies: 13
Views: 1202

Re: majalis of Qadhi numan

Dear Hamsafar & Profastian:

We don't believe Dai to be Masoum like we believe Imam to be. But we believe Dai to be " Kal Masoum" which means "Masoum Jaisa".
by bensaheba
Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:45 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Abdes - what happens in a Bohri Mosque these days?
Replies: 64
Views: 5343

Re: Abdes - what happens in a Bohri Mosque these days?

Dear Porus: "Wakf really means "dedicated". the area that is dedicated as Masjid is sanctified where the 12 adabs of masjid behavior apply in the rest of the peripheral areas are used as support areas or for women in menstural cycle to sit and do tasbeeh or listen to the prayers or just meditate. In...
by bensaheba
Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:19 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: 13 Rajab Mubarak
Replies: 32
Views: 3246

Re: 13 Rajab Mubarak

Dear Porus: Abyaz means white, aswad means black. Beez is a word derived from abyaz. Ayyamul beez literally means the shining days. You are right about moon getting brighter and full on 13th,14th, and 15th. But here Ayyam means days, so it has nothing to do with brighter moon but because of birth of...
by bensaheba
Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:29 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Negligence took the life of Mumin
Replies: 29
Views: 3320

Re: Negligence took the life of Mumin

AsSalaam o Alaikum All: This is my first posting as I have been very effected by this tragic news, but I have been coming to this forum and just reading what everyone else has to say. It is taking a lot of courage on my part to expose myself because I have seen how sister Rania and sister Charmingro...