Fakhruddin Group will soon follow the example of Sana Group in dubai.
Sana Group was very close to the kothar and now they are out of bohra fold.
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- Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:49 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Fakhruddin Properties
- Replies: 30
- Views: 5036
- Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:42 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Support from the community
- Replies: 91
- Views: 9748
Re: Support from the community
You and a few others get all riled up and hijack the main issues concerned time again and dwell upon personal attaks. But when it comes to your Burhanuddin, kothars, sunnies, shias, and all your other brothers in faith, you are ready to spout your venoms on them. I have criticized Islam, its belief ...
- Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:19 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Fundamental questions
- Replies: 36
- Views: 4240
Re: Fundamental questions
Br.Hussain,
Zakir Naik is no different from Kotharis.Both are equally dangerous.
A person who is supposed to be a scholar of Islamic studies and comparative religion fails to understand the simple 'right and wrong'.
Yezid is "Radi Allah Anh (RA) for him and Hussain(AS) was fighting a ...
Zakir Naik is no different from Kotharis.Both are equally dangerous.
A person who is supposed to be a scholar of Islamic studies and comparative religion fails to understand the simple 'right and wrong'.
Yezid is "Radi Allah Anh (RA) for him and Hussain(AS) was fighting a ...
- Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:05 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Support from the community
- Replies: 91
- Views: 9748
Re: Support from the community
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"Alislam, if you consider youself an honest person and a true believer of your God, then please point to even the slightest hint that I have given which states that death and destruction caused due to political ...
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"Alislam, if you consider youself an honest person and a true believer of your God, then please point to even the slightest hint that I have given which states that death and destruction caused due to political ...
- Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:47 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Support from the community
- Replies: 91
- Views: 9748
Re: Support from the community
Danish,
If you have found nothing good in the teachings of Holy Prophet (pbuh) and the quran, then it is your personal problem.
I pity the depressed people like you who cannot undertand the beauty of a holy figure like Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) who introduced the concepts of 'Equality, humility ...
If you have found nothing good in the teachings of Holy Prophet (pbuh) and the quran, then it is your personal problem.
I pity the depressed people like you who cannot undertand the beauty of a holy figure like Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) who introduced the concepts of 'Equality, humility ...
- Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:11 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Support from the community
- Replies: 91
- Views: 9748
Re: Support from the community
Danish,
Death and destruction caused due to political gains or for that matter, any reason other than (so called) "religious" is acceptable to you as a humanist..Is this the defination of a humanist according to you ??
Perhaps you require good lessons in world history to understand "How, When ...
Death and destruction caused due to political gains or for that matter, any reason other than (so called) "religious" is acceptable to you as a humanist..Is this the defination of a humanist according to you ??
Perhaps you require good lessons in world history to understand "How, When ...
- Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:49 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Support from the community
- Replies: 91
- Views: 9748
Re: Support from the community
As for criticizing Muslims and Islam, it has become a world wide phenomenon since at least 9/11 in the wake to open up and cure the schizophrenic minds, eyes and ears due to their intolerant, hypocritical and maligned thinking patterns dictated by your masculine Allah towards all non-Muslims ...
- Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:25 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Support from the community
- Replies: 91
- Views: 9748
Re: Support from the community
""You mean the conspiracy theory, like the one here about Islam: www.aididsafar.com (very interesting how conspiracies shape up to facts and figures). Read up all you can on that site and tell me if it stands up to any scrutiny""
--- Google again, read a few more and see what "Free thinkers ...
--- Google again, read a few more and see what "Free thinkers ...
- Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:34 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Support from the community
- Replies: 91
- Views: 9748
Re: Support from the community
""As for criticizing Muslims and Islam, it has become a world wide phenomenon since at least 9/11 in the wake to open up and cure the schizophrenic minds, eyes and ears due to their intolerant, hypocritical and maligned thinking patterns dictated by your masculine Allah towards all non-Muslims ...
- Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:06 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Opinions on Marriage, Music, and Dress Code
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1363
Re: Opinions on Marriage, Music, and Dress Code
What makes you think she is Ex-Muslim? because of her stand against subjugation and terror?
Probably if you read more about her, you can deduce the same.
Regarding her stand against terror : She seems to be supporting one form of subjugation and terror over the other..All form of terror are ...
Probably if you read more about her, you can deduce the same.
Regarding her stand against terror : She seems to be supporting one form of subjugation and terror over the other..All form of terror are ...
- Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:59 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Opinions on Marriage, Music, and Dress Code
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1363
Re: Opinions on Marriage, Music, and Dress Code
Wafa Sultan is an ex-muslim.
Why don't you see other videos in the same list, where western white women who converted to Islam has to say.
Why don't you see other videos in the same list, where western white women who converted to Islam has to say.
- Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:19 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
- Replies: 108
- Views: 24846
Re: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
In order to prove kotharis wrong, we quote Quran, Prophet & Imams but when it comes to the basic tenets of Islam, the same Quran and Prophets/Imams way of life become useless..There cannot be more hypocrisy than this.
Use it to support our viewpoint and later discard it as a figment of someone's ...
Use it to support our viewpoint and later discard it as a figment of someone's ...
- Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:58 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
- Replies: 108
- Views: 24846
Re: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
"Danish does cause some turning of the cogwheels in the brain, and for that I appreciate his views.
Besides, I think he is right about a lot of things."
--- Reform do not mean going out of the tenets of Islam..Even the official response of this site says the same.
Besides, I think he is right about a lot of things."
--- Reform do not mean going out of the tenets of Islam..Even the official response of this site says the same.
- Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:51 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
- Replies: 108
- Views: 24846
Re: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
Danish
You are neither a reformist nor an orthodox..you are neither a muslim
Why and for what are you wasting your energies on this site??
You want others to acknowledge you for your stupid philosophies, appreciate and allign with you..Try this out at some like minded sites
You are neither a reformist nor an orthodox..you are neither a muslim
Why and for what are you wasting your energies on this site??
You want others to acknowledge you for your stupid philosophies, appreciate and allign with you..Try this out at some like minded sites
- Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:56 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
- Replies: 108
- Views: 24846
Re: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
By not believing in anything, they are believing that "Religion is not necessary "..They believe what they believe is right and all else is wrong.
In other words they say "My philosophy is better than yours"..irony is they criticize others for doing the same.
So, bottomline is everyone ...
In other words they say "My philosophy is better than yours"..irony is they criticize others for doing the same.
So, bottomline is everyone ...
- Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:01 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
- Replies: 108
- Views: 24846
Re: Moti-us-swalak Fasting
"The meaning which I understand behind this ritual is simply trying to understand what hunger is. And ofcourse to follow a disciplined diet all through the year in order to lead a healthy life."
--- Is this reason not big enough to fast ??
Leading a healthy life, being disciplined in all aspects ...
--- Is this reason not big enough to fast ??
Leading a healthy life, being disciplined in all aspects ...
- Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:58 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Another SCAM??????
- Replies: 177
- Views: 18461
Re: Another SCAM??????
It is not new that some people in every age will say that "Religion is not required" etc
Religion provdies laws that are essential for social justice.
Rules and regulations are there to be followed in every society/country for the betterment of the society.
Is there any civil society where ...
Religion provdies laws that are essential for social justice.
Rules and regulations are there to be followed in every society/country for the betterment of the society.
Is there any civil society where ...
- Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:19 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Questions, internal criticism and change
- Replies: 38
- Views: 5976
Re: Questions, internal criticism and change
Kaaba is not worshipped and is not akin to idol.
During the days of prophet and even later times people used to stand on top of it and give Azaan during prayer times.
No one would do so in case of an idol.
Moreover, kaaba is central for all muslims so that they have unity in praying in a ...
During the days of prophet and even later times people used to stand on top of it and give Azaan during prayer times.
No one would do so in case of an idol.
Moreover, kaaba is central for all muslims so that they have unity in praying in a ...
- Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:33 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mojeza in galyakot
- Replies: 72
- Views: 16231
Re: Mojeza in galyakot
The Ganesh idols in india drank milk,the water of sea in mumbai turned sweet, the Alams (flags) cried etc..,
All these can be explained scientifically and there is nothing called "Mojeza" here.
Fools are present everywhere to believe in such stupidity.
There are many people in the world who ...
All these can be explained scientifically and there is nothing called "Mojeza" here.
Fools are present everywhere to believe in such stupidity.
There are many people in the world who ...
- Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:54 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt
- Replies: 77
- Views: 6392
Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt
Are you referring to Hazrat Ali who licked salt going against the sunnah of the prophet?
Which sunnah kitab mentions licking salt is against sunnah of prophet.??
And stop your rheoteric of "worshipping Ali"
There is a difference in following and worshiping..Hope you understand
Which sunnah kitab mentions licking salt is against sunnah of prophet.??
And stop your rheoteric of "worshipping Ali"
There is a difference in following and worshiping..Hope you understand
- Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:50 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pearls from Waaz
- Replies: 150
- Views: 16298
Re: Pearls from Waaz
Truemumin,
This is simple kothari logic to bring imam into picture and say "If imam is present you guys would have to pay more, etc.,
Mismanagement of public fund for one's personal lavishes will never be correct irrespective of whoever does it.
People will pay even their life time savings ...
This is simple kothari logic to bring imam into picture and say "If imam is present you guys would have to pay more, etc.,
Mismanagement of public fund for one's personal lavishes will never be correct irrespective of whoever does it.
People will pay even their life time savings ...
- Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:59 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: jawab do oma, jawab do
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2295
Re: jawab do oma, jawab do
You are already involved through your tax money. When you know where your tax money is going so you are involved in it
This is a unipolar world which we live in today.
Governments are the same irrespective of the countries you live in and you dont have control over your tax money utilization ...
This is a unipolar world which we live in today.
Governments are the same irrespective of the countries you live in and you dont have control over your tax money utilization ...
- Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:33 pm
- Forum: Here and Now
- Topic: Capital suggestion
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1039
Re: Capital suggestion
I received above via chain e mail. It is telling story of progress India has made and lack of initiative due to cultural apathy in Pakistan. For Muslim to progress it is utmost necessary that they pay attention to education in science and literature as well as in religion.
Apart from education ...
Apart from education ...
- Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:22 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pearls from Waaz
- Replies: 150
- Views: 16298
Re: Pearls from Waaz
I dont accept your argument. Maula never discriminates peoples based on wealth.
If discrimination is not based on wealth, your Maula should go to poor's houses for ziafat.
How can even a middle class pay lakhs of rupees for ziafat?
May i ask you one question. Suppose you are a very rich man ...
If discrimination is not based on wealth, your Maula should go to poor's houses for ziafat.
How can even a middle class pay lakhs of rupees for ziafat?
May i ask you one question. Suppose you are a very rich man ...
- Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:02 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pearls from Waaz
- Replies: 150
- Views: 16298
Re: Pearls from Waaz
"Dawat have built many schools, hospitals, eduational institutes etc. + religious things. Perhaps you are without brains. Hundred of thousand of peoples cannot be brainwashed"
whatever construction happens is mainly due to the money contribued(extracted) from local jamaats..In fact there will ...
whatever construction happens is mainly due to the money contribued(extracted) from local jamaats..In fact there will ...
- Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:48 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pearls from Waaz
- Replies: 150
- Views: 16298
Re: Pearls from Waaz
Tell me one thing. What are you going to do with your "hard earned" money. Take it to the God and tell him, hey god, take me inside heaven because i have so much money??? And i tell you what, guaranteed you will be kicked out. Or will you take your money into your grave ?
--- What else can one ...
--- What else can one ...
- Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:01 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pearls from Waaz
- Replies: 150
- Views: 16298
Re: Pearls from Waaz
It is foolishness that you have lot of money and you wear torn off clothes and dont keep a good outlook. When Imams ruled egypt, do you think at that time imams were wearing torn off clothes and leading a low life
--- Fatimi imams did not extort money from their people. They ruled with justice ...
--- Fatimi imams did not extort money from their people. They ruled with justice ...
- Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:53 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pearls from Waaz
- Replies: 150
- Views: 16298
Re: Pearls from Waaz
And yes this is kingdom because Imam is the king and Dai is rep. And Imam has authorized Dai to proceed with this Kingdom in his absence. If you question Dai then indirectly you question Imam
It this were to true, what do you have to say about the previous dais who lead a very astute and pious ...
It this were to true, what do you have to say about the previous dais who lead a very astute and pious ...
- Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:45 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pearls from Waaz
- Replies: 150
- Views: 16298
Re: Pearls from Waaz
so better accept the present Dai is haqq and that is the right path. Also same to Hussain_KSA
I will accept present dai to be haqq, only when he follows the path shown by prophet(saw) and his Ahlebait.
If you go through various articles on this board or talk to bohris worldwide, majority ...
I will accept present dai to be haqq, only when he follows the path shown by prophet(saw) and his Ahlebait.
If you go through various articles on this board or talk to bohris worldwide, majority ...
- Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:28 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Wahhabi Quandary....
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1018
Re: Wahhabi Quandary....
correction :
" BUT its for your that your type has"
Read As : BUT its people of your type who have
" BUT its for your that your type has"
Read As : BUT its people of your type who have