PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Aarif
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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Aarif » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:57 pm

Malaysian Muslims are actually under the Shariah Law
You are wrong.. Malaysia is an Islamic democratic country with 30% chinese population. The law of land is equal for everyone...

Fatwa Banker
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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:09 pm

Again, it is not. They have a parallel court system and Muslims fall under the jurisdiction of the Islamic Court where Sharia law is applied, the Chinese and non-Muslims fall under the secular courts. Instead of pointless rhetoric, why don't you just research what I am saying and come back with facts ?

Enough said...

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Unread post by Aarif » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:22 pm

This is not pointless rhetoric.. You are just coming up with the lame excuse that Muslim countries are using the Shariah law. So let's switch the gears. How many countries are strictly enforcing the shariah law apart from Saudi Arabia? Maybe Afganistan??? How many known incidents of stoning to death, cutting of limbs etc. have you come accross? I agree that polygamy is still widely used but again how does allowing a man to have multiple wives bother you? My point is you need to come up with statistics so that you can confidently claim that the religion of Islam promotes barbarism. I picked up Malaysia because I have been to Malaysia and believe me it is one of the most secular and tolerant Islamic countries. It is better than countries like India where a muslim feels out of place even though it boasts of secularism. I have seen chinese and Muslims living in perfect harmony without stepping on each other's toes. Again I want to know the list of problametic countries which strictly follow and enforce the Shariah law. I am not interested in the theoretical constitutional crap but the practical implementation.

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:11 pm

Aarif,

fart has blinders on. He saw a youtube video about a woman getting shot in a football stadium in Afghanistan and that has become his benchmark when talking about all muslims. And this, after the fart told me not to get my news from youtube!! Torture is something that America endorses and condones. But the fart is ok with that. As I have pointed out a few times, fart is a Hypocrite with a capital H. Look at how he treats a woman from Saudi Arabia who is fighting for rights
Yeah, right. You live in Saudi Arabia and concerned about women and rights ?

Get over it

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:19 pm

Aarif,
So let's switch the gears
No let's not switch gears, you aren't getting away that easy. You post plain false information and then instead of fessing up to it you want to switch gears.
You are just coming up with the lame excuse that Muslim countries are using the Shariah law.
I don't give a rat's ass about Shariah Law, I am speaking of Islam's "implementation and followers". However, if you want to expand the dicussion to include Shariah Law it will widen the scope of inhuman practices, just start a new thread in an appropriate category. Based on the fact that you visited Malaysia and yet didn't know that Muslims there operate under the Shariah law should make it short and one sided.

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:29 pm

Not while I am around fart. Slapping you around has never been so much fun. It is only a matter of time before I have you whining and running like a little girl again. Remember, according to your interpretation of shariah, little girls like you are ok for me. :mrgreen:

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by never_assume » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:05 am

Yet another posting from you that does not make any sense........you really need to read what you write PRIOR to posting it
Muizz,

Anything goes beyond your mind, your knowledge or against your ego. That post does not make sense to you. But apart from you no one else in this forum finds the post doesn’t make any sense, why you write such mails were you cannot keep your words and then blame others post doesn’t make sense, please see through how Aarif and anajmi takes you for a ride and then you are fusssssssss. See sense in that issues were you are lack…not others post were someone else is up to the mark or not.

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Unread post by never_assume » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:15 am

FB.
true muslim know what is islam and covering the face is the part of it

Then your wife has bigger problems than whose thaal she sits in. Tell her Bohra's and most other non-Arab Muslims are really not true Muslims.

Fattu..B

For me there is no bigger problems that whose thaal I sit, eg: Bohra, non-Arabs or etc,,,etc,,, We YAMANI'S have our own thaal. :lol:

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Unread post by never_assume » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:21 am

Heartly Thanks to Aarif and Anajmi..nice work...keep it up... :)

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Al-Muizz » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:35 am

never_assume wrote:FB.
true muslim know what is islam and covering the face is the part of it

Then your wife has bigger problems than whose thaal she sits in. Tell her Bohra's and most other non-Arab Muslims are really not true Muslims.

Fattu..B

For me there is no bigger problems that whose thaal I sit, eg: Bohra, non-Arabs or etc,,,etc,,, We YAMANI'S have our own thaal. :lol:

Nice one NA,

Now its we YAMANIS. Before it was "I am a Bohra", then it was I have an issue with "so-and-so-mumenaat", then it was "a low class amil, a low-class mumeen", now you are "a YAMANI"....really nice. I like how you follow the teachings of the Prophet SAW so well....you really must be proud of this!

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Aarif » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:41 am

Again, it is not. They have a parallel court system and Muslims fall under the jurisdiction of the Islamic Court where Sharia law is applied, the Chinese and non-Muslims fall under the secular courts. Instead of pointless rhetoric, why don't you just research what I am saying and come back with facts ?
Their is a difference between random acts committed by individuals in violation of the law, and acts commited by say 1% of the population and supported by the judicial system !
I don't give a rat's ass about Shariah Law,
Enough said huh.. Please read your own posts before making a fart out of yourself.

BTW: What's your real point? Didn't you mention in the begining that people commit these atrocities in the name of Islam because the Islamic law makes it legal? My understanding of your concern was that people are doing this in the name of religion. And that is when I asked you roughly what % of muslims are following these practices in the name of religion? Let me make if very simple for you. Let's take an example of a country that follows Shariah law but does not implement these practices because they are inhuman. An ideal example would be Malaysia. Even if they follow the Shariah law they do not stone people to death, cut their limbs if caught stealing etc. I am still not getting your REAL concern. Is it the Islamic judicial system or its implementation?

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:31 pm

al-muizz
I like how you follow the teachings of the Prophet SAW so well....you really must be proud of this!
Please tell me if you or any orthos follow the teaching of Prophet SAW, simple and austere life and even pray for Dushman
Remember the story of old lady who use to throw garbage.....compare that to the lanaats read on Dawat na Dushmano aka Asgharali Engineer, Adamjee Peerbhai and others...

Fatwa Banker
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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:52 pm

Fatwa Banker wrote:Malaysian Muslims are actually under the Shariah Law
Aarif wrote: You are wrong..Malaysia is an Islamic democratic . The law of land is equal for everyone....
Fast forward, after I educated you
Aarif wrote: Even if they follow the Shariah law they do not stone people to death, cut their limbs if caught stealing etc.
Wrong again, they cane women for drinking beer :roll:

Look this is getting old, you are obviously not well read nor do you keep up with current events. This is a total waste of time.

Adios

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:54 pm

Aarif wrote: Even if they follow the Shariah law they do not stone people to death, cut their limbs if caught stealing etc.
Wrong again, they cane women for drinking beer :roll:
Oops, we just went from stoning people to death and cutting limbs to caning women. A mightly leap. Did the fart watch a youtube video?

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Unread post by Aarif » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:47 pm

Wrong again, they cane women for drinking beer
This was not there in your original list of concerns. Look now you have started to bore me. Now you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel to win an argument.

BTW: You have still not answered my question. What is your actual concern? Most of the Islamic countries do not implement harsh practices like stoning people to death, cutting their limbs for stealing etc. And if that is the case what is bothering you?

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:44 pm

You are a glutton for punishment especially since facts bore you. You came off as a bumbling uninformed idiot on a few examples I gave and you want more ?
Let's starts by telling this victim of caning in Malaysia how "secular" they are and that they do "not implement these practices because they are inhuman". Fart Junkie can tell him this is "A mightly leap", & the Shemale can tell him he don't care 'cause he sits in "Yamani Thaal". I don't know what a Yamani is but it is obviously a cause for great elation. That is if the 3 of you can get your head out of my ass long enough to take a break from your fart fixation.

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:54 am

Did the fart get this picture from the same guy who got the pictures of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction?

Now I know why the fart is farting so much. It's size is three heads wide. :mrgreen:

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by never_assume » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:50 am

Nice one NA,

Now its we YAMANIS. Before it was "I am a Bohra", then it was I have an issue with "so-and-so-mumenaat", then it was "a low class amil, a low-class mumeen", now you are "a YAMANI"....really nice. I like how you follow the teachings of the Prophet SAW so well....you really must be proud of this!
Muizz who says there are no Yamani bohras in community...what makes you so funny..

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:36 am

Let's starts by telling this victim of caning in Malaysia how "secular" they are and that they do "not implement these practices because they are inhuman".
From the way you criticize Muslim countries following Shariah law, I should have seen people getting stoned every once in while, a person without limbs crawling on the street etc. when I was in Malaysia. But fortunately I saw nothing like that during my entire stay. And this shows that such practices are not followed in every Muslim country.

BTW: The authenticity of this picture can be easily doubted since you have just posted a picture without any other information. If this is based on facts than post the actual source from where you found this picture. As Anajmi has rightly mentioned in his post that unless you come with some concrete evidence it will be dismissed as a stinky fart.

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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:28 am

Please read this.. This was a first case in Malaysia and that also the accused had a right to appeal.
A Muslim part-time model will be caned next week, becoming the first woman in Malaysia to be given the punishment under Islamic law, after she pleaded guilty to drinking beer, a prosecutor said Wednesday.
Prosecutor Saiful Idham Sahimi said Kartika will be the first woman to be caned under Islamic law after she chose not to appeal the sentence.
Saiful said the rattan cane to be used on Kartika would be lighter than the one used on men
A woman and a man, both Muslims, were also arrested during a series of raids in Cherating, a beach town in Pahang state, on the night when Kartika was detained. Both were also sentenced to caning, but they have appealed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32471704/

People like you make mountains out of mole hills to defame Islam and Muslims. Shame on you..

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:34 am


Fatwa Banker
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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:34 pm

Old news....you should have educated yourself prior to attempting to debate me. Now I have lost interest due to your ignorance.

Go back to smelling farts ( but keep reading, it will do you good)

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:38 pm

fart conveniently side steps the fact that he produced a fake picture of a woman who was never caned.

Aarif
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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:46 pm

Old news....you should have educated yourself prior to attempting to debate me. Now I have lost interest due to your ignorance.
Did you loose interest because of my ignorance or yours. Next time do your research properly before posting fake pictures.

Chao

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:58 pm

That was a real picture of a guy being caned in Malaysia, you know the "secular" place where the "law of land is equal for everyone", "one of the most secular and tolerant Islamic countries".

For a moment I was concerned they were making a point with you when they dicovered you were in town for 2 weeks and didn't know about their laws for Muslims. Glad to hear you are safe :wink:

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:01 pm

Oops, the woman who got caned has now become a guy. You sure that ain't the picture of your messed up sex change operation?

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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:09 pm

For a moment I was concerned they were making a point with you when they dicovered you were in town for 2 weeks and didn't know about their laws for Muslims.
Who told you that I was in Malaysis for two weeks? I was there for quite some time.

BTW: I have spent couple of years in Doha Qatar which is in middle east. I saw nothing like you mentioned out there also.

First you lied to us by saying that a woman was canned for drinking beer. Than you posted a picture of a guy claiming it to be a picture of a woman. Now since you have nothing substancial to add you have started farting.

I believe that for lying farts like you the Shariah law will really come handy as they can whup your stinky arse with a rattan cane for spreading white lies. :mrgreen:

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Re: PLEASE HELP OUR RIYADH MUMINEEN...

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:37 pm

anajmi wrote:he produced a fake picture of a woman who was never caned
Fart Junkie Jr. & Sr.,

I referred to him as a male in my post. Furthermore, with your affinity for farts I thought you guys could tell the difference between a male butt and a female one ! :mrgreen:
Then it occured to me that you Wahabis have an aversion for females, so you may have never seen one :D

I am in the ass kickin' business and business is lookin' GOOD ! :P

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:05 pm

You post the pictures of a guys caned butt after talking about a woman getting caned. I won't even ask you why you have the pictures of a guys butt in your collection. :mrgreen:
I am in the ass kickin' business and business is lookin' GOOD !
Well, may be the Malaysian Government should hire you eh?? :wink:

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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:19 pm

I referred to him as a male in my post.
That is only after you were caught farting. Oops I am sorry that is after you were caught lying.
I am in the ass kickin' business and business is lookin' GOOD !
A fart can only talk about arses and butts. Home sweet home.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: