Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Assalamu Alaykum,

I do not think there is a common ground for this discussion any more, for Qur'an is in Arabic language, and if we are not even willing to accept the usage of the word mubeen in the language of the Qur'an, and blaming English dictionary of why they used an English word which ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

You give no references whatsoever.

Not EVEN a single source. I can also start writing what I believe and not care about where I derive this from. This time I quoted everything to make it clear.

I can quote you all the verses that will take a Christians or Jews fast or ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

Hur wrote:---
have you read this yourself? My lack of understanding doesn't stop me from understanding. How does that make sense? That's like saying I cannot understand english, but I can read it. What have you gained? So because you know about salat...it is of no consequence ...

Assalamu Alaykumk Porus,

Thank you for your sincere consideration of my argument. I am not as concerned that you accept what I say to be correct, but that you evaluate my argument honestly without any preconcieved notions. Needless to say, I do not imply that anyone on this forum is not sincere ...

Assalamu Alaykum Hur,

Hur wrote: --
You've begun to repeal your own statements now.
You now write:
"This obviously means that Allah's directive is restricted to Qur'an and Muhammad (sws) only."

I thought you wrote the Quran is clear for everyone one to understand without any previous ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

I agree with the most of what Muslim First said, except for the following:

"those passages where they differ then they can go to their Scholars and be guided by them."

When we study the Qur'an, our aim is to find what Allah wants from us. If we go to our scholars only, we ...

As for the physics book example, I do not agree that you need some prerequisite knowledge. As I have asserted before, I took many books relating to such fields and studied them without any instructor even when I was not exposed to the subject. I believe most people do.

It is true that one comes ...

My apologies; I dont think I can participate in another discussion at this point, so I will not be starting new ones as I had said before.

Thanks

Assalamu Alaykum,

I will humbly request the members to start separate threads on issues that are not related to Qur'anic understanding, because that just causes confusion (at least for me). Thanks.

I apologize Hur if I overlooked something or did not misunderstand, but I could not understand ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

Hur wrote:--
"1.) I like yourselves have my opinion of what understanding is contained in the verses. And as Porus stated..the information is both a derivative of Quranic and social histories of the verses. This cannot be separated from the understanding of the Quran. The Quran ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

I have witnessed enough inertia with respect to the topic under discussion here that I feel compelled to write back here, and therefore this post.

In addition, I will sacrifice some literary style and brevity to explain the matters in detail. Also to remove the objections of ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

I am just wondering and asking the same questions over and over again, especially to those who believe that Burhanuddin is the right leader and also believe that they are in the right faith.

My question is 'how do you know?' Because you were born in this faith and have always ...

If anyone else on the forum believes I need to explain something, please let me know. I will be more than happy to talk about the issues.

If someone wants to contact me, my email is muhammad_iqbal@msn.com.

Best wishes to all.

Apologies. The reference was supposed to be Al-e-Imran 3:6 and not 3:7.

Assalamu Alaykum,

1.) while you point out that the second verse refers to the general public, you failed to to mention the verse after "We reveal to you (Muhammad) the good/best stories unto to you of this Quran." The Quran was revealed to Muhammad to teach to the public. And that is also why I ...

Thank you.
Nice to see old nicks around.

I agree with MuslimFirst's last point. I spent time learning both the standard as well as classical Arabic, and more I learn, I realize that translations today are sufficient in almost all the cases. The minor differences that exist are not of sectarian nature. Those differences have only appeared ...

And it is also implied that you may end up having differences of opinion from me for instance, but if you genuinly believe that to be the truth, then my stand is that you should follow what you bevieve to be correct and not believe in what my understanding of God and religion is.

Dear Rasul Redoy,

I have in no way implied that you should become what I am. That was not my aim. In fact, I am pointing towards our beliefs the way we are born. We just believe that whatever our faith is, it is the correct one. And we will die believing this. The only reason for our being Muslim ...

Further points with respect to translations and interpretations:

Parts of Qur'an were translated into Persian by Salman Farsi while Prophet Muhammad (sws) was alive. Biographies on Salman Farsi usually carry this information. I will request user Hur to provide factual data which makes them ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

I have presented the translations of the Qur'anic texts which I understand from the Arabic text as well. I do not quote Abdullah Yousufali or any other scholar's translation unless I agree with their translation being closely representing what Qur'an is actually saying in its ...

I am reposting my original post to Mr Abdulhussein's article. I had posted the article wrongly and had to request deletion to repost. This is being posted for the context of the previous discussion to which Muslim First replied in the third post.

Thanks ...

Dear Hur,

I do not think it is a misquote and to appreciate the interpretation that I propose, you should consider the Surah as a whole. This Surah starts with the following verses:

"Ha. Mim. By the Book that makes things clear." (Ad-Dukhaan 44:1-2)

From thereon, the Surah admonishes the ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

Just as an fyi, I apologize for my previous post as it transformed this message into something which makes it difficult to read. I realized that after posting the message.

If there is an inner meaning of the Qur'an, this claim must be substantiated by the Qur'an itself ...

I think the first step for all of us is to understand why we believe in what we do. Because we were just born in that particular faith, or do we have a sound reason. Most of us are born in families and adhere to that faith, but that is not Allah's way of showing path. In addition, when most of us ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

Qur'an may be able to help us a little bit here:

"The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast ...

Assalamu Alaykum,

An article that people may find interesting on the importance of reading and understanding the Qur'an.

Qur'an states to its reader:
"Verily, We have made this (Qur'an) easy, in your tongue, in order that they may give heed." (Ad-Dakhan 44:58)

And it also states about ...