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by ultofanatic
Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:48 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dabba Thali hygiene concern
Replies: 325
Views: 101055

Re: Dabba Thali hygiene concern

Instead of this so called 'free' food they should start giving mumineen free technical job skills. If you feed them today, you have to feed them everyday with no end in sight. Once they get job skills, they can earn for themselves and could earn and feed themselves and their whole family. They would ...
by ultofanatic
Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:31 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: we want something new to happen
Replies: 44
Views: 8436

Re: we want something new to happen

We need to be careful whom to tag as Progressive, abde or fence sitter. A person may have a topi and dhadi on him and may readily complain against the system, but when push comes to shove, he will immediately abandon the minority and take the majority stand.

To be able to really physically and ...
by ultofanatic
Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:50 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Acknowledge the Dead
Replies: 18
Views: 4069

Re: Acknowledge the Dead

It is not that people are not welcome to the "Moze". If they come in the droves, the basic requirements of one Ambulance, a few medical personnel, quick thinking volunteers and one fire engine have to be in place. Are these not the basic decent things that the large crowds who gather for "Deedar ...
by ultofanatic
Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:01 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Acknowledge the Dead
Replies: 18
Views: 4069

Re: Acknowledge the Dead

Right now the need of the hour is not miracles. What we need from him is some sound advice to his followers not to hound him wherever he goes and create a riot like situation. And some solid crowd management program. I am sure that when bohras follow each and every word of his they will definitely ...
by ultofanatic
Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:47 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Acknowledge the Dead
Replies: 18
Views: 4069

Acknowledge the Dead

There have been two tragedies in one day. Shehzada Huzefa Bhai Saheb expired. His death was most unfortunate. Everybody came to know about it and eulogies came pouring in. The Dead was interred with due respect. May his soul rest in peace.

The other tragedy which was not publicized (for reasons ...
by ultofanatic
Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Categorising the proggies
Replies: 37
Views: 8284

Re: Categorising the proggies

Since we are born into this community and have to live with this baggage, we might as well make the best of it instead of cribbing all the time.

Give as little as possible. Donate as much as possible to other sources. And there are umpteen. There are so many people and organizations who help ...
by ultofanatic
Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:12 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Categorising the proggies
Replies: 37
Views: 8284

Re: Categorising the proggies

No. This is for die hard abdes. All their hard liner thoughts would go up in a puff of smoke when they see the reality that money buys everything. No amount of dawat ne seva would be good enough. Hard cash is what counts.
by ultofanatic
Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:58 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Categorising the proggies
Replies: 37
Views: 8284

Re: Categorising the proggies

This talk of love and deep affection for the Dai et al., would go bust with just one trial - don't pay wajebaat for one or two years. "Sab bhoot utar jayega". Give it a try & see. Money is the end subject of all matters relating to dawat, dua, jannt, jahannum, ilm etc. at least as far as our ...
by ultofanatic
Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:02 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Is Anyone Listening
Replies: 30
Views: 6375

Re: Is Anyone Listening

No harm in seeding an idea. Who knows somewhere, somebody, sometime will take notice and have a humanitarian heart to take up this kind of a project.

There are so many more things that can be done and at not much of a price. Only the political will is required.

And there are so many government ...
by ultofanatic
Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:45 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Is Anyone Listening
Replies: 30
Views: 6375

Is Anyone Listening

Why can't we for sometime leave alone the so called "dawat na dushman" agenda and instead try to contribute our little bit by giving ideas for the improvement of the bohra lot. In the hope that someone somewhere is listening and willing to implement.

The basic idea is the stimulate and diversify ...
by ultofanatic
Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:02 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: engineer's interview
Replies: 24
Views: 4738

Re: engineer's interview

According to Aqs, Aamil is not the culprit - the jamaat members are. The jamaat members are jumping around like there is no tomorrow on the instructions of the Aamil who in turn is jumping around on the authority vested in him by the higher ups. It's a vicious circle. What is the common man to do ...
by ultofanatic
Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:00 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: engineer's interview
Replies: 24
Views: 4738

Re: engineer's interview

Why is there no accountability ? This is a simple question. Ask this and god's (Kothar's) wrath will follow.

Ask any other simple logical question and you will be labelled a "Dawat no dushman". What a nonsensical methodology this.

Take for example the system of "Dabbas". One can't ask questions ...
by ultofanatic
Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:27 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The Iron Grasp of the High Priest - Tehelka article
Replies: 30
Views: 6008

Re: The Iron Grasp of the High Priest - Tehelka article

His Holiness looks and has a lot of spirituality, glory and fame. But why should it have come at the cost curbing the rights of individuals, by throttling the right to speak about any injustice, by demanding and expecting salaams as if it is their birthright, by manipulating the minds (specially ...
by ultofanatic
Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:14 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The Iron Grasp of the High Priest - Tehelka article
Replies: 30
Views: 6008

Re: The Iron Grasp of the High Priest - Tehelka article

Choking off of sane democratic discussion and objective dialogue is not a matter of celebration. However religious, forward looking,wealthy & smart the community may be, it is indeed a sad state where sane/logical voices are supposed to shut up just because they are trampling on somebody's foot ...
by ultofanatic
Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:36 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Money Madness
Replies: 29
Views: 7177

Re: Money Madness

You are a modern people living in a modern world/city. You may have broken down so many obstacles and barriers to get to live in & work in London. No need to cringe when money is demanded.

Get like minded people on a platform and show a combined opposition. Surely if this can be done in many ...
by ultofanatic
Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:55 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: 100 Milad Celebrations
Replies: 122
Views: 21910

Re: 100 days and Billions wasted to buy Khushi

The richer bohras have money. Thing is they need to spend it in a better way beneficial way for the community. How can this advise be "hasad".

The abdes hate the idea of spending their money on anything other than their "cause".
by ultofanatic
Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:27 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: One More title Bought by the Dai's Sibling.
Replies: 31
Views: 7619

Re: One More title Bought by the Dai's Sibling.

I cannot understand what Madras University has to do with Open International University for Complimentary Medicines, Colombo, mentioned by zulfikar.
by ultofanatic
Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:17 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: PURJOSH DAREES
Replies: 17
Views: 3491

Re: PURJOSH DAREES

When money has become the criteria, the means & schemes to get more of it have become more and more exotic, weird and unexplainable. Inexcusable things are being done in the process of creation of wealth. The basic thing is don't let the bohras go astray. Gather them around - in dareeses, majlises ...
by ultofanatic
Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:39 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Stocks & Shares
Replies: 1
Views: 776

Stocks & Shares

Bohras are not supposed to invest in stocks & shares. How come the Malumaat site allows advertisement of "Blue chip stock ideas"?
by ultofanatic
Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:25 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Syedna's Chehlum Waaz
Replies: 53
Views: 10501

Re: Syedna's Chehlum Waaz

There are no grievance redressal set procedures in place. If you write a letter to Al vazaarat, individually or collectively regarding any complaint, there is a deafening silence. On the other hand, the local Amil will start his nonsense behavior of selective avoidance - make you crave for "maafi ...
by ultofanatic
Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:13 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Important reasons for abdes to follow Syedna
Replies: 99
Views: 13501

Re: Important reasons for abdes to follow Syedna

Has any detailed study been done to assess the economic level of Bohras ? Are there any statistics other than the standard rhetoric that all Bohras are doing well.
This requires a well documented research effort. What is there to prove that there is no poverty amongst Bohras.

Just look around you ...
by ultofanatic
Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:16 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Important reasons for abdes to follow Syedna
Replies: 99
Views: 13501

Re: Important reasons for abdes to follow Syedna

There is a thing called hyperactivity or hyper sensitivity. Some people have this in born gift. They are so sensitive to things around them that like a dog can sniff you out from a long way off, they can simply look at you and sense what is going on in your head, your being. This is nothing ...
by ultofanatic
Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:59 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Disadvantages of being bohra
Replies: 4
Views: 1214

Re: Disadvantages of being bohra

Come on Aqs. Where are you ? Lets see how you are going to explain away the glaring discrepancies. What are your justifications ?
by ultofanatic
Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:54 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: he may enjoy long life
Replies: 29
Views: 4084

Re: he may enjoy long life

Physically when you compare the Abdes with Progressives, there may be a huge difference. You have not counted those who have been mentally pushed towards the progressive doctrine. Go to the different cities and towns - talk to the ordinary bohras. Everyone has a sob story. Everyone has suffered at ...
by ultofanatic
Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:32 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: End these Tamashas and the corruption thereof
Replies: 68
Views: 7420

Re: End these Tamashas and the corruption thereof

Has anyone noticed - there are no postings from abdes for sometime now. In fact there is no opposition of any kind. There is an undisturbed atmosphere on the forum. Where have they all gone?
by ultofanatic
Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:43 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils
Replies: 88
Views: 13993

Re: Misaq to Dai - is the Root of all the Evils

The misaq may be read out in gujrati. But, is the kid who is taking it knowledgeable enough to really understand its conditions. Does he realize what he is actually committing. He probably/mostly is just going through the motions - forced in to this ceremony by parents & society. At their age and ...
by ultofanatic
Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:38 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Giving Misaq to Dai is Wrong
Replies: 2
Views: 885

Re: Giving Misaq to Dai is Wrong

It does appear that other than by some divine intervention, nothing is going to happen to improve the current situation.

The human spirit, ever effervescent and buoyant, even in the face of tremendous hardship, will triumph. There will come a day for "hisaab kitaab". No atrocity will go unpunished ...
by ultofanatic
Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:55 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: where does zakat money goes?
Replies: 109
Views: 14436

Re: where does zakat money goes?

It is so convenient to put all our shortcomings under the carpet under the garb of human behavior and the Arabs.

Let the arabs go to hell. What, as a community, are we ready to for our unfortunate ?

Come up with some ideas - not your rhetoric of "what can we do" "everyone is doing it".
by ultofanatic
Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:33 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: where does zakat money goes?
Replies: 109
Views: 14436

Re: where does zakat money goes?

One simple way of gauging poverty levels is the number of kids coming into service in the various shops of dawoodi bohras all over India. A number of kids in the age bracket 14-18 come and do menial jobs - mostly from Sidhpur and small gujrat villages.

Just make an estimate in your own town and ...
by ultofanatic
Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:23 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Punish the evil
Replies: 2
Views: 753

Re: Punish the evil

AZ is right. Whatever happens is behind closed doors. See what happens when you write a letter explaining your local problems. Nothing. Zilch. A deafening silence.

There is a grievance redress mechanism /procedure even in the lowliest of government offices. Nothing comes of it most of the time is ...