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- Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:37 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Clarity in the reform philosophy!!!
- Replies: 48
- Views: 4945
Re: Clarity in the reform philosophy!!!
Should we assume that they too are not doing their duties?
- Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:21 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Clarity in the reform philosophy!!!
- Replies: 48
- Views: 4945
Re: Clarity in the reform philosophy!!!
In my area, the Amil has stressed it many a times that NASS will take place through ILHAM to the Dai. In which the Imam will tell the Dai whom to appoint. I think that reveals that Dai is not in physical touch with the Imam but through spiritual contact. So what you claim, they also agree to it ...
- Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:32 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: After Burhan, what will happen
- Replies: 105
- Views: 9010
Re: After Burhan, what will happen
Bro Seeker,
You yourself are violating your own statement.
Bigotry is yours as you don't respect ANAJMI's views and expect him to respect yours. How come?
Though I am not an ANAJMI fan but I admire his spirit and zest.
You yourself are violating your own statement.
Bigotry is yours as you don't respect ANAJMI's views and expect him to respect yours. How come?
Though I am not an ANAJMI fan but I admire his spirit and zest.
- Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:00 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: gifts in heaven
- Replies: 33
- Views: 3309
Re: gifts in heaven
A fau pax in my previous post.
Read it as
Yehan Marne Ki Pabandi, Wahan Jeene Ki Pabandi.
Read it as
Yehan Marne Ki Pabandi, Wahan Jeene Ki Pabandi.
- Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:24 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: gifts in heaven
- Replies: 33
- Views: 3309
Re: gifts in heaven
Tere Aazad Bundon Ki Na Yeh Duniya Na Woh Duniya,
Yehhan Jeene Ki Pabandi Wahan Marne Ki Pabandi.
But then
Sanobar Bagh Mein Aazad Bhi Hai Pabaghal Bhi Hai,
Inhi Pabandiyon mein Haasil Aazadi Ko Tu Kar Lai.
Yehhan Jeene Ki Pabandi Wahan Marne Ki Pabandi.
But then
Sanobar Bagh Mein Aazad Bhi Hai Pabaghal Bhi Hai,
Inhi Pabandiyon mein Haasil Aazadi Ko Tu Kar Lai.
- Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:04 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Curse of Qarde-Hasanah
- Replies: 3
- Views: 832
Re: Curse of Qarde-Hasanah
Mr. Insaf,
Rather than using the phrase-THEY ARE CURSING QARD-E-HASANA SCHEME- Kindly, use the phrase-THEY ARE CURSING THE SO CALLED SHEIKH.
For the scheme is very very islamic in its very nature.
I agree, the execution is not proper and for that you can't curse the scheme per se.
Rather than using the phrase-THEY ARE CURSING QARD-E-HASANA SCHEME- Kindly, use the phrase-THEY ARE CURSING THE SO CALLED SHEIKH.
For the scheme is very very islamic in its very nature.
I agree, the execution is not proper and for that you can't curse the scheme per se.
- Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:22 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Functions of three top functioneries
- Replies: 1
- Views: 647
Re: Functions of three top functioneries
Qadi Annumaan at the time of Jaffer Assadiq?
Correct your information.
Correct your information.
- Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:37 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
- Replies: 87
- Views: 6989
Re: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
Brother Porus,
1)If Quran can't be translated then what should be done to the existing Quran?
2)Was the Quran only understood by the ones who lived during prophet's time? Being a shia you'll say that only Ahl albait could understand it if that was, so why Quran didn't emanate to them secretly ...
1)If Quran can't be translated then what should be done to the existing Quran?
2)Was the Quran only understood by the ones who lived during prophet's time? Being a shia you'll say that only Ahl albait could understand it if that was, so why Quran didn't emanate to them secretly ...
- Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:14 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
- Replies: 87
- Views: 6989
Re: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
Porus,
Please, please draw some conclusions on the basis of your belief/beliefs whenever you are at the discussions. Kindly don't beat about the bush.
Tell us your interpretation of those ayahs here in particular and others in general.
There are many on the board who have claimed you a genius ...
Please, please draw some conclusions on the basis of your belief/beliefs whenever you are at the discussions. Kindly don't beat about the bush.
Tell us your interpretation of those ayahs here in particular and others in general.
There are many on the board who have claimed you a genius ...
- Mon May 28, 2007 6:40 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
- Replies: 87
- Views: 6989
Re: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
Shias believe that the one who frowned at Ibn Umm Makhtum, the blind man was Uthman and not the prophet.
There are instances in quran of nazul of surahs for different personalities like in many surahs the mention is towards Ali. Abu Bakar has also been mentioned so was Shaitan. Therefore nothing ...
There are instances in quran of nazul of surahs for different personalities like in many surahs the mention is towards Ali. Abu Bakar has also been mentioned so was Shaitan. Therefore nothing ...
- Sun May 27, 2007 10:02 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Progressive!! Your Family With you or what???
- Replies: 66
- Views: 7781
Re: Progressive!! Your Family With you or what???
No use fighting.
Woh Afsana Jise Anjaam Tak Laana Na Ho Mumkin,
Usey Ik Khoobsurat Mod Dey Kar Chhod Na Achha.
Woh Afsana Jise Anjaam Tak Laana Na Ho Mumkin,
Usey Ik Khoobsurat Mod Dey Kar Chhod Na Achha.
- Sat May 26, 2007 8:45 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!
- Replies: 88
- Views: 9734
Re: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!
Bro. Average Bohra,
I was just counting on the advantages of the Islamic banking.
1) An Islamic bank works like a private company, involved in buying and selling of goods and services with the concept of RENT/PROFIT but not with the concept of INTEREST. There is difference between RENT and ...
I was just counting on the advantages of the Islamic banking.
1) An Islamic bank works like a private company, involved in buying and selling of goods and services with the concept of RENT/PROFIT but not with the concept of INTEREST. There is difference between RENT and ...
- Fri May 25, 2007 10:17 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!
- Replies: 88
- Views: 9734
Re: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!
Brother ABCD,
As long as I know of Islamic banks, they help you buy commodity and a contract is signed in which it is mentioned that so and so commodity was purchased from the bank and money is to be paid in instalments.
They don't give you loan in form of personal liquid money which you might ...
As long as I know of Islamic banks, they help you buy commodity and a contract is signed in which it is mentioned that so and so commodity was purchased from the bank and money is to be paid in instalments.
They don't give you loan in form of personal liquid money which you might ...
- Thu May 24, 2007 9:34 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!
- Replies: 88
- Views: 9734
Re: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!
I agree with what porus said in his posts.
Islamic bank functions like this:
Let's suppose you want to buy a car for 15000$, you go to the bank, the bank will sell the car to you instead of the dealer in 16000$. The bank will pay 15000$ to the dealer and earn the profit of 1000$.
But the ...
Islamic bank functions like this:
Let's suppose you want to buy a car for 15000$, you go to the bank, the bank will sell the car to you instead of the dealer in 16000$. The bank will pay 15000$ to the dealer and earn the profit of 1000$.
But the ...
- Mon May 14, 2007 5:55 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The Emperor's New Clothes
- Replies: 85
- Views: 8311
Re: The Emperor's New Clothes
Najmi,
I agree with you to the extent that once the translation takes place, it loses the true fragrance of the message but then we have no option but to translate the message so that it could reach the wider people.
My response was to Porus who asked why no 'No Ilah but Ilah'. Surely it ...
I agree with you to the extent that once the translation takes place, it loses the true fragrance of the message but then we have no option but to translate the message so that it could reach the wider people.
My response was to Porus who asked why no 'No Ilah but Ilah'. Surely it ...
- Mon May 14, 2007 11:08 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The Emperor's New Clothes
- Replies: 85
- Views: 8311
Re: The Emperor's New Clothes
Porus,
Ilah means god, it could be any god as we have in Hinduism and no surprise it was in practice in the old Arabia but Allah which is Al + Ilah means THE GOD, the only one as in arabic 'AL' is as equal as 'the' in English, this is an article in Arabic grammar,e.g. Alsadiq means the truthful ...
Ilah means god, it could be any god as we have in Hinduism and no surprise it was in practice in the old Arabia but Allah which is Al + Ilah means THE GOD, the only one as in arabic 'AL' is as equal as 'the' in English, this is an article in Arabic grammar,e.g. Alsadiq means the truthful ...
- Sat May 12, 2007 8:50 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Is this a cult or what?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1888
Re: Is this a cult or what?
Najmi,
Ahmed means one who praises and Mohammed means one who has been praised.
Ahmed means one who praises and Mohammed means one who has been praised.
- Fri May 11, 2007 8:24 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Is this a cult or what?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1888
Re: Is this a cult or what?
I agree with Average Bohra that peolple find it easier to worship the messenger than to follow the message as more than most of the common people, though sometimes educated but are just professionals, are ignorant of the truth and find it difficult to dig into it and so they just follow the ...
- Fri May 11, 2007 5:30 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: I think almost progressive are ignorant, what to do?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 4446
Re: I think almost progressive are ignorant, what to do?
For me'
'Faith is a mental state in which one has a strong conviction of something favourable or unfavourable to happen or not to happen.'
'Faith is a mental state in which one has a strong conviction of something favourable or unfavourable to happen or not to happen.'
- Tue May 08, 2007 8:52 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The Emperor's New Clothes
- Replies: 85
- Views: 8311
Re: The Emperor's New Clothes
And the experimentation of this so called person with mystical experiences starts and he tries to alter the spiritual beliefs of the people with his own belief which may not be in anyway superior to the early beliefs of the native people.
And the worst part is not only he tries to modify those ...
And the worst part is not only he tries to modify those ...
- Fri May 04, 2007 4:57 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Progs Plz Answer my Questions...
- Replies: 152
- Views: 13924
Re: Progs Plz Answer my Questions...
PORUS
You said,
''Majority of the Quran is mutashaabihat. Most Muslims believe that only Allah knows its meaning, and Muhammad by implication of 16:44. Shias extend this knowledge to the Dais and Imams.''
As you claim they have the knowledge, but the biggest tragedy is they don't share that ...
You said,
''Majority of the Quran is mutashaabihat. Most Muslims believe that only Allah knows its meaning, and Muhammad by implication of 16:44. Shias extend this knowledge to the Dais and Imams.''
As you claim they have the knowledge, but the biggest tragedy is they don't share that ...
- Thu May 03, 2007 11:08 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Progs Plz Answer my Questions...
- Replies: 152
- Views: 13924
Re: Progs Plz Answer my Questions...
And how many of you know that Yousuf Ali was a Dawoodi Bohra of Khambat.
- Wed May 02, 2007 6:29 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Dai in Quran
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6380
Re: Dai in Quran
PORUS,
Isn't it possible that when Syedna Tahir Saifuddin was born, the father Syedna must have looked at the juz of Quran and named him Tahir and given him the laqab of Saifuddin to suit the situation in Quran.
The same applies for Syedna Burhanuddin, his father Syedna must have done that and ...
Isn't it possible that when Syedna Tahir Saifuddin was born, the father Syedna must have looked at the juz of Quran and named him Tahir and given him the laqab of Saifuddin to suit the situation in Quran.
The same applies for Syedna Burhanuddin, his father Syedna must have done that and ...
- Tue May 01, 2007 9:05 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Dai in Quran
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6380
Re: Dai in Quran
Alavis say : Shaheed e azam , Daee al almutlaq, Syedna Ali Shamusuddin was the martyr for whom the prophet had prophesied. Remember he was killed by Dawoodi Bohras at the instigation of the then our Daee.
Now my question: Was Syedna Kutbuddin prophesied or Syedhum Ali Shamsuddin prophesied? They ...
Now my question: Was Syedna Kutbuddin prophesied or Syedhum Ali Shamsuddin prophesied? They ...
- Tue May 01, 2007 5:51 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Dai in Quran
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6380
Re: Dai in Quran
Here are questions for PORUS.
1. Define the term DAEE. Who gave that definition? Was it given by Quran, Rasul, Ali?
2. TOI and SEEN for Syedna Taher Saifuddin which you mention may be for any other name such as Taha Sirajuddin with the astronomical similarities of the coincidenses which you ...
1. Define the term DAEE. Who gave that definition? Was it given by Quran, Rasul, Ali?
2. TOI and SEEN for Syedna Taher Saifuddin which you mention may be for any other name such as Taha Sirajuddin with the astronomical similarities of the coincidenses which you ...
- Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:01 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mixing the two issues
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1983
Re: Mixing the two issues
I guess kaki akela is an NRI and not a residing Indian Bohra. Quite unaware of the facts.
- Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:29 am
- Forum: Here and Now
- Topic: Paradise Lost: elegy for Beirut
- Replies: 35
- Views: 6663
Re: Paradise Lost: elegy for Beirut
Anajmi,
What about the innocent people killed in Bombay bomb blasts by hardcore people like you.
What about the innocent people killed in Bombay bomb blasts by hardcore people like you.