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by humane
Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:37 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Clarity in the reform philosophy!!!
Replies: 48
Views: 4945

Re: Clarity in the reform philosophy!!!

Should we assume that they too are not doing their duties?
by humane
Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:21 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Clarity in the reform philosophy!!!
Replies: 48
Views: 4945

Re: Clarity in the reform philosophy!!!

In my area, the Amil has stressed it many a times that NASS will take place through ILHAM to the Dai. In which the Imam will tell the Dai whom to appoint. I think that reveals that Dai is not in physical touch with the Imam but through spiritual contact. So what you claim, they also agree to it ...
by humane
Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:32 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: After Burhan, what will happen
Replies: 105
Views: 9010

Re: After Burhan, what will happen

Bro Seeker,

You yourself are violating your own statement.

Bigotry is yours as you don't respect ANAJMI's views and expect him to respect yours. How come?

Though I am not an ANAJMI fan but I admire his spirit and zest.
by humane
Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:00 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: gifts in heaven
Replies: 33
Views: 3309

Re: gifts in heaven

A fau pax in my previous post.

Read it as

Yehan Marne Ki Pabandi, Wahan Jeene Ki Pabandi.
by humane
Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: gifts in heaven
Replies: 33
Views: 3309

Re: gifts in heaven

Tere Aazad Bundon Ki Na Yeh Duniya Na Woh Duniya,
Yehhan Jeene Ki Pabandi Wahan Marne Ki Pabandi.

But then

Sanobar Bagh Mein Aazad Bhi Hai Pabaghal Bhi Hai,
Inhi Pabandiyon mein Haasil Aazadi Ko Tu Kar Lai.
by humane
Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:04 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Curse of Qarde-Hasanah
Replies: 3
Views: 832

Re: Curse of Qarde-Hasanah

Mr. Insaf,

Rather than using the phrase-THEY ARE CURSING QARD-E-HASANA SCHEME- Kindly, use the phrase-THEY ARE CURSING THE SO CALLED SHEIKH.

For the scheme is very very islamic in its very nature.
I agree, the execution is not proper and for that you can't curse the scheme per se.
by humane
Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:22 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Functions of three top functioneries
Replies: 1
Views: 647

Re: Functions of three top functioneries

Qadi Annumaan at the time of Jaffer Assadiq?

Correct your information.
by humane
Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:37 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
Replies: 87
Views: 6989

Re: Mullahs on the Mainframe.

Brother Porus,

1)If Quran can't be translated then what should be done to the existing Quran?

2)Was the Quran only understood by the ones who lived during prophet's time? Being a shia you'll say that only Ahl albait could understand it if that was, so why Quran didn't emanate to them secretly ...
by humane
Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:14 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
Replies: 87
Views: 6989

Re: Mullahs on the Mainframe.

Porus,

Please, please draw some conclusions on the basis of your belief/beliefs whenever you are at the discussions. Kindly don't beat about the bush.
Tell us your interpretation of those ayahs here in particular and others in general.

There are many on the board who have claimed you a genius ...
by humane
Mon May 28, 2007 6:40 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
Replies: 87
Views: 6989

Re: Mullahs on the Mainframe.

Shias believe that the one who frowned at Ibn Umm Makhtum, the blind man was Uthman and not the prophet.

There are instances in quran of nazul of surahs for different personalities like in many surahs the mention is towards Ali. Abu Bakar has also been mentioned so was Shaitan. Therefore nothing ...
by humane
Sun May 27, 2007 10:02 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progressive!! Your Family With you or what???
Replies: 66
Views: 7781

Re: Progressive!! Your Family With you or what???

No use fighting.

Woh Afsana Jise Anjaam Tak Laana Na Ho Mumkin,
Usey Ik Khoobsurat Mod Dey Kar Chhod Na Achha.
by humane
Sat May 26, 2007 8:45 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!
Replies: 88
Views: 9734

Re: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!

Bro. Average Bohra,

I was just counting on the advantages of the Islamic banking.

1) An Islamic bank works like a private company, involved in buying and selling of goods and services with the concept of RENT/PROFIT but not with the concept of INTEREST. There is difference between RENT and ...
by humane
Fri May 25, 2007 10:17 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!
Replies: 88
Views: 9734

Re: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!

Brother ABCD,

As long as I know of Islamic banks, they help you buy commodity and a contract is signed in which it is mentioned that so and so commodity was purchased from the bank and money is to be paid in instalments.

They don't give you loan in form of personal liquid money which you might ...
by humane
Thu May 24, 2007 9:34 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!
Replies: 88
Views: 9734

Re: banking.....y is it so strictly forbidden!!!!

I agree with what porus said in his posts.

Islamic bank functions like this:

Let's suppose you want to buy a car for 15000$, you go to the bank, the bank will sell the car to you instead of the dealer in 16000$. The bank will pay 15000$ to the dealer and earn the profit of 1000$.

But the ...
by humane
Mon May 14, 2007 5:55 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The Emperor's New Clothes
Replies: 85
Views: 8311

Re: The Emperor's New Clothes

Najmi,

I agree with you to the extent that once the translation takes place, it loses the true fragrance of the message but then we have no option but to translate the message so that it could reach the wider people.

My response was to Porus who asked why no 'No Ilah but Ilah'. Surely it ...
by humane
Mon May 14, 2007 11:08 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The Emperor's New Clothes
Replies: 85
Views: 8311

Re: The Emperor's New Clothes

Porus,

Ilah means god, it could be any god as we have in Hinduism and no surprise it was in practice in the old Arabia but Allah which is Al + Ilah means THE GOD, the only one as in arabic 'AL' is as equal as 'the' in English, this is an article in Arabic grammar,e.g. Alsadiq means the truthful ...
by humane
Sat May 12, 2007 8:50 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Is this a cult or what?
Replies: 11
Views: 1888

Re: Is this a cult or what?

Najmi,

Ahmed means one who praises and Mohammed means one who has been praised.
by humane
Fri May 11, 2007 8:24 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Is this a cult or what?
Replies: 11
Views: 1888

Re: Is this a cult or what?

I agree with Average Bohra that peolple find it easier to worship the messenger than to follow the message as more than most of the common people, though sometimes educated but are just professionals, are ignorant of the truth and find it difficult to dig into it and so they just follow the ...
by humane
Fri May 11, 2007 5:30 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: I think almost progressive are ignorant, what to do?
Replies: 35
Views: 4446

Re: I think almost progressive are ignorant, what to do?

For me'

'Faith is a mental state in which one has a strong conviction of something favourable or unfavourable to happen or not to happen.'
by humane
Tue May 08, 2007 8:52 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The Emperor's New Clothes
Replies: 85
Views: 8311

Re: The Emperor's New Clothes

And the experimentation of this so called person with mystical experiences starts and he tries to alter the spiritual beliefs of the people with his own belief which may not be in anyway superior to the early beliefs of the native people.

And the worst part is not only he tries to modify those ...
by humane
Fri May 04, 2007 4:57 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progs Plz Answer my Questions...
Replies: 152
Views: 13924

Re: Progs Plz Answer my Questions...

PORUS

You said,
''Majority of the Quran is mutashaabihat. Most Muslims believe that only Allah knows its meaning, and Muhammad by implication of 16:44. Shias extend this knowledge to the Dais and Imams.''

As you claim they have the knowledge, but the biggest tragedy is they don't share that ...
by humane
Thu May 03, 2007 11:08 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progs Plz Answer my Questions...
Replies: 152
Views: 13924

Re: Progs Plz Answer my Questions...

And how many of you know that Yousuf Ali was a Dawoodi Bohra of Khambat.
by humane
Wed May 02, 2007 6:29 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dai in Quran
Replies: 51
Views: 6380

Re: Dai in Quran

PORUS,

Isn't it possible that when Syedna Tahir Saifuddin was born, the father Syedna must have looked at the juz of Quran and named him Tahir and given him the laqab of Saifuddin to suit the situation in Quran.

The same applies for Syedna Burhanuddin, his father Syedna must have done that and ...
by humane
Tue May 01, 2007 9:05 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dai in Quran
Replies: 51
Views: 6380

Re: Dai in Quran

Alavis say : Shaheed e azam , Daee al almutlaq, Syedna Ali Shamusuddin was the martyr for whom the prophet had prophesied. Remember he was killed by Dawoodi Bohras at the instigation of the then our Daee.

Now my question: Was Syedna Kutbuddin prophesied or Syedhum Ali Shamsuddin prophesied? They ...
by humane
Tue May 01, 2007 5:51 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dai in Quran
Replies: 51
Views: 6380

Re: Dai in Quran

Here are questions for PORUS.
1. Define the term DAEE. Who gave that definition? Was it given by Quran, Rasul, Ali?

2. TOI and SEEN for Syedna Taher Saifuddin which you mention may be for any other name such as Taha Sirajuddin with the astronomical similarities of the coincidenses which you ...
by humane
Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:01 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mixing the two issues
Replies: 11
Views: 1983

Re: Mixing the two issues

I guess kaki akela is an NRI and not a residing Indian Bohra. Quite unaware of the facts.
by humane
Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:29 am
Forum: Here and Now
Topic: Paradise Lost: elegy for Beirut
Replies: 35
Views: 6663

Re: Paradise Lost: elegy for Beirut

Anajmi,

What about the innocent people killed in Bombay bomb blasts by hardcore people like you.